We all criticize Floyd for ducking, but he had the balls to do what Calzaghe didn't.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Nov 22, 2009.


Page 1 of 3
  1. horst

    horst Guest

    Floyd Mayweather fought Jose Luis Castillo. It was not a thrilling fight, and Mayweather did not approve of some of Castillo's tactics (he and trainer Roger repeatedly complained about low-blows, and JLC was docked a point during the fight). It was not a vintage Mayweather performance, he found it difficult to dominate or put any distance between him and JLC.

    However, he got the verdict.

    Many people felt Castillo should have got the decision, so...

    Mayweather fought him again. And this was in spite of Castillo's unsavoury tactics, in spite of Mayweather feeling he had won clearly, in spite of the fact Castillo was not a huge draw or a household name, in spite of the fact the first fight was not a Fight Of The Year candidate, and in spite of the fact that Castillo was a difficult opponent and it had been a tricky and frustrating evening.

    ______________________________________________________________


    Joe Calzaghe fought Bernard Hopkins. It was not a thrilling fight, and Calzaghe did not approve of some of Hopkins's tactics (his 'white boy' comments before the fight and the feigned low blow). It was not a vintage Calzaghe performance, he found it difficult to dominate or put any distance between him and B-Hop.

    However, he got the verdict.

    Many people felt Hopkins should have got the decision, so...

    Calzaghe didn't fight him again.





    Floyd Mayweather often gets criticized, and with good reason, but it should be noted that when he had a close fight with a tough opponent, he granted a rematch. Other fighters wouldn't have done so, they would just have been happy to escape with the win and wouldn't have went near taking the risk again.
     
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    #1
  2. horst

    horst Guest

    What's your point with regard to this thread-subject?
     
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    #2
  3. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,903
    126
    Oct 23, 2009
    Fair point.
     
    des3995, Nov 22, 2009
    des3995, Nov 22, 2009
    #3
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

    46,399
    15
    Jan 9, 2008
    Floyd does get a lot of undue hate, but his 'reign' at welter has been pretty lame - he has fought a lot of good fighters there but very few of them are comfortable at 147.

    Hatton was more comfortable than he was letting on though - he used the weight as an excuse for the loss, as well as not being allowed to execute his gameplan..... some of it legal, some illegal.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Nov 22, 2009
    Beeston Brawler, Nov 22, 2009
    #4
  5. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

    7,207
    1
    Sep 12, 2009
    Yeah cuz Calzaghe gets a lot of phraize here doesn't he?
     
    cubex, Nov 22, 2009
    cubex, Nov 22, 2009
    #5
  6. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

    9,101
    0
    Jul 15, 2007
    What a dumb pointless thread man, calzaghe was 36 when he fought hopkins, and he was taking only 1 more fight after that before retirement. Why the hell would he wanna fight BH again when he could lose 2nd time round?? Floyd woulda done the ecaxt same thing. Mayweather was in his prime at 25 and was sure he'd beat Castillo. Both fighters have avoided other fighters....

    Some of the idiocy on here never ceases to amaze me..
     
    lewishamboy, Nov 22, 2009
    lewishamboy, Nov 22, 2009
    #6
  7. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

    15,033
    5
    May 26, 2008
    Eh, I don't like the comparison. Sounds like one of those dumbass stats you get from ESPN that no one gives a **** about. Just say that Floyd has fought better competition in his career than Joe Calzaghe and most would argree with you.
     
    J.R., Nov 22, 2009
    J.R., Nov 22, 2009
    #7
  8. horst

    horst Guest

    I don't want everyone to agree with me, and I don't want to talk about their career comp. Neither of these have any relevance to the subject. The point of the thread is that Floyd had the guts to grant a rematch to an unattractive and difficult opponent, while Joe C did not.
     
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    #8
  9. horst

    horst Guest

    Clearly you don't believe a great fighter should possess the same mentality as I do. If you're willing to settle for that attitude, good luck to you.
     
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    #9
  10. horst

    horst Guest

    Castillo hadn't been in the Corrales fight by that time. In 2002, he did not put as many "bums on seats" as Bernard Hopkins did in 2008.
     
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    #10
  11. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    48,204
    9
    Sep 16, 2008
    Nobody wants to see that crap again, Hop-Cal.
     
    Boxing Fanatic, Nov 22, 2009
    Boxing Fanatic, Nov 22, 2009
    #11
  12. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,856
    1
    Dec 19, 2006
    Plenty of fighters had the balls to do plenty of thngs that Calzaghe didn't. But as regards to this, it was a horrible mesh of styles for the average fan. Calzaghe also was apparently pissed at Hopkins lack of grace after the fight so was reluctant to grant a rematch. Besides, if Calzaghe had given him a rematch, we'd probably of never witnessed Hopkins laying out a beating on Pavlik. I think that Calzaghe should of gone after Dawson while Hopkins got Pavlik and then fought a rematch wtih Hopkns. But that's just me.
     
    Smazz20, Nov 22, 2009
    Smazz20, Nov 22, 2009
    #12
  13. SmartyBeardo

    SmartyBeardo New Member Full Member

    62
    0
    Nov 22, 2009
    Insert "in the UK" between "nobody" and "would".

    Just do it.
     
    SmartyBeardo, Nov 22, 2009
    SmartyBeardo, Nov 22, 2009
    #13
  14. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,407
    1
    Jul 24, 2004
    I dislike Mayweather but this is one thing I could never understand about haters when they claim he faced weak opposition. His opposition was top notch but most importantly he faced many different styles, big punchers Castillo, Coralles but also slicksters Mitchell, Judah. Bigger men Gatti, DeLaHoya and also smaller men JMM. I wish he had fought Cotto and Mosley though.
     
    maciek4, Nov 22, 2009
    maciek4, Nov 22, 2009
    #14
  15. horst

    horst Guest

    I don't know what your point is. Hopkins was a huge name in 2008, and Castillo was never a huge name. Floyd was a much bigger name than Calzaghe, and Hopkins was a much bigger name than Castillo. The gap between Floyd and Castillo was bigger than between Calzaghe and Hopkins. And Floyd took the rematch while Joe did not.
     
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    horst, Nov 22, 2009
    #15
Page 1 of 3