We all criticize Floyd for ducking, but he had the balls to do what Calzaghe didn't.

cASTILLO WON FIGHT #1 In my humble opinion.. Manny is something special, different.

 

great comparison...:think:huh:-(not

 

Floyd gets no love on ESB...it is well known that any thread made about him will involve hate from the haters...

 

Mayweather fought Castillo again. He gets credit for that.

 

dont cry about it. Hes got his huggers too...just like every fighter

Floyd lost it with me. Too much to get into... but i used to 'like' him. I mean, i went over too east london when he came to the uk....waited for some hours for him...some packed place where i nearly got crushed..

...dont regret going...but would i do it again? NO way

 

It's what happened after Castillo that has evidenced the cherry picking.

He has the skill to beat anyone, he just isn't as big a risk taker 140 onward.

Had he kept the record and thirst for tough fights he had up to and including 135, it would have been a serious ATG career of a higher standard with less room for argument.

As it is - Pacquiao has continued to take the bigger fights and tougher challenges and that's why the bulk of the world name Pac P4P #1 right now.

 

No rematch with Oscar from Floyd,but i agree that Joe never spoke of a rematch with Bernard showed he thought he would lose it.Joe never re matched anyone,the guys that really pushed him never got another shot.Kessler,Ried never got a look in.Hopkins is different in that i think Joe knows he really did lose that one and was handed gift b the judges.It was close but Bernard should have got it.

 

not cryin about it....juss letting him know u cant have a real thread discussion when it comes to Floyd cuz some people seem to literally hate the man or literally love the man and thus you cant really have a decent conversation like you could have say about, Roy Jones JR...Too many biased muh fu3kas

 

Rematch? Hopkins didn't fight like he wanted to be there the first time around. And that was with the fight in Vegas, Calzaghe moving up in weight for the first time, and Cortez reffing a biased fight in Hopkins' favor. All the cards were lined up for Hopkins winning the first time around, and it still didn't happen. What would happen under more neutral circumstances, or better yet, if Calzaghe had some of those advantages? And, if history is any precedent from the Taylor fights, how many changes to Bernard's gameplan could we have honestly expected?

The rematch not happening actually helps Hopkins' legacy because how he fought vs Pavlik is what's freshest in fans minds- not a second Calzaghe loss. If I were a huge Hopkins fan, I wouldn't complain because things worked out the best way possible for Hops as it is.

 

notice how snapper head throwz in "he found it difficult to dominate" when the jackass is talking about a fight that most thought floyd lost

u gotta watch 4 bullsyte like this when u get a hammer head making linez around stuff pretending it meanz something

now sorry to absoulutely crush your bubble into oblivian but therez one reason floyd fought castillo again and that waz because he waz convinced he could beat him because he waz aware ass you yourself said it was'nt "vintage mayweather"

you have highlighted here today that mayweather should in all reality have a L on hiz resume

 

Good post :good

 

Different circumstances. That was early in Floyd's career. Mayweather had to fight a rematch if he didn't want critics bringing up that fight the rest of his career.

If Calzaghe had fought Hopkins earlier in his career I would agree. Unfortunately Hopkins pussied out of a fight with Calzaghe closer to their primes.

Hopkins only agreed to fight Joe when he had nothing to lose and Joe was on top. Calzaghe gave him a shot and Hopkins stunk up the joint with his negative spoiling, and often illegal tactics. We were to see later Hopkins could still fight in the lesson he gave Pavlik. He just knew he couldn't beat Joe in a fair fight. Joe still beat him despite his cheating, and once should've been enough to prove to fans he was the better man.

A rematch would've been cringed upon by most fight fans and there was no gaurantee it would sell the second time round. Whereas with Mayweather-Castillo, that was actually a decent fight and fans demanded a rematch.

Can't blame Joe for not giving B-Hop an undeserved second shot, when as another poster stated Hopkins 'fought' (and I use the term liberally) like he didn't want to be in there with Joe. And consider Hopkins refused to give Joe a chance in their primes. Joe instead chose a big payday vs RJJ and retired into the sunset at an age most fighters are far removed from their best. This thread is just plain Calzaghe hating.

 

True:good

 

People can say what the **** they want about Floyd, at the end of the day he's a 5 weight world champ and achieving what he has he can choose who ever he wants to fight.