''We don't want to admit it, but athletes gets better'' ...& Mike Tyson Mysteries

vitali sucked at every other sport except combat..h2h he'd fck up any1 louis,ali,lewis

 

Lewis? I have some news for you. TKO6

 

You gotta be ******ed to think today's boxers compare to the 80s and 90s guys. Very few I watch I can put in there with the past era, you can just see it with their technique, speed, etc Just not as many people are boxing and that is why we're not getting as many great boxers and the caliber is down overall, just look at the heavies LOL

 

Well, I think most would agree that 'you gotta be ******ed."

 

Wlad would have toyed with Ali, because he was 4 inches taller?

Right.

 

So many idiots on here.

I don't know how many times we've had this debate.

You can't compare track and field athletes with boxing.

You just can't.

Sports science, nutrition and training equipment etc have improved today's athletes.

Your average guys today maybe bigger and stronger etc.

What's it got to do with boxing?

Nothing!

Boxing is an art.

Sports science and nutrition can't improve balance, timing and ring IQ.

A Marathon runner from 50/60 years ago could not compete against today's best runners.

Yet there's boxers from 50/60 years ago that could, and IMHO, would, beat some of today's guys.

For the guys who are giving basketball analogies, saying that teams from yesteryear couldn't compete with today's, that's fine.

But is today's MW division the strongest it's ever been?

How about LHW or HW?

Boxing isn't progressing each decade, like other sports are.

Today's top guys aren't as good as the best fighters from the 80's and 90's.

If boxing progressed each decade, then today's guys across all weight classes would be considered the best of all time.

Yet they clearly aren't.

Things that aren't that common today: Body shots, uppercuts, in fighting.

Also, if we still had 15 round fights, most of these so called athletes of today's era, would be in a world of trouble. A lot of guys today gas before the twelfth.

So athletes may get better, but it doesn't mean that the fighters are.

 

I can't understand this type of thinking.

You maybe right in everything you've wrote above.

But tell us what the f**K it has to do with boxing?

Are you telling me that there aren't any fighters from the 50's that could beat some of today's guys?

Are there no fighters from the 60's, 70's, and 80's that could beat today's guys?

Ha!

How many examples do you want?

If you were a fighter today, you could have the best training facilities, the best equipment, a nutritionist and a strength and conditioning coach all to hand.

But it wouldn't automatically mean that you'd be a better fighter than a guy who fought 60 years ago.

Boxing is an art that's studied.

Today's guys haven't automatically got better footwork, better balance, better timing.

It doesn't mean they can throw a hook better and they have a better defence.

Just think about things logically, and you'll see why your post is pointless.

Are today's fighters the best fighters ever?

Are today's HW's superior to the HW's of the 90's, 80's and 70's?

Are today's crop of LHW's the best LHW's?

Are today's LW's the best LW's of all time?

Boxing does not progress each decade, in the same way that other sports do.

If you had a time machine, you could go back 40 years and get a fighter that would destroy some of today's guys.

Think about it.

 

Today's fighters aren't the most skilful fighters of all time though are they?

Were all the boxers from the 00's more skilled than all the boxers from the 80's, even though there was a 20 year gap?

Generations don't always learn from the past.

Most of the old time trainers are gone.

Fighters don't fight as often, and learn their trade coming up, like they used to.

There's also things that aren't as common today: Body shots, the uppercut, double hooks, in fighting etc.

 

Better athletes yes better boxers no.

 

So much food is readily available that wasn't when we were younger imagine how better athletes we'd had all become had we the food.

 

It's got nothing to do with boxing.

Fighters haven't got to race against a clock.

They've got numerous techniques to master.

 

I don't believe fighters had better cardio in the 15 round era, they just paced themselves appropriately for those number of rounds and took rounds off just like the fighters in the no round limit London Prize Ring Rules era. Did the doughy alcoholic John L Sullivan who KO'd Jake Kilrain in the 75th round of a scheduled 80 round bout have better cardio then all the 12rd HWs today?

 

It doesn't mean they're better.

Put Wlad in with the best HW's of the 80's and 90's, and you could bet that he'd be in a world of trouble.

 

You don't have to go back as far as Sullivan.

Generally fighters from years ago were better conditioned, because they were in the gym or in the ring.

They were far more active.

They didn't only fight 2-3 times per year.

Times have changed today with the huge money on offer etc.

A fighter today doesn't need to fight once per month or ten times per year.

 

Roids have been about since Jessie's own era. Roids are hardly a new thing in sport.