We fight how we train - Lomachenko vs Commey - The pull counter

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Is Loma`s pull counter better than a prime Floyd Mayweather pull counter?
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  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma don't do nothing better than Floyd except lose.
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    That's not fair. Floyd is the all round better fighter but Loma does a few things better
     
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    loma is too stubby. he can pull counter when you lean in, but he cant reach you unless you do. floyd could pull counter even when your weight is on the back foot. he has more than half a foot in reach over loma.
     
  5. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry to ask this.

    What is 'pull counter' ?
     
  6. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    What did Eastern Europe do to you?
     
  7. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is just a difference of opinion based on facts.
     
  8. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    With a sprinkle of salt, just for flavour.
     
  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol, I can pour a little salt but I don't replace facts with salt even if I don't like the facts.
     
  10. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    It's a slip counter. He either slips outside commeys back hand or he slip n steps.
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  11. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    Thank you. Appreciate it. :)
     
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  12. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma never ducked anyone. The most skilled boxer in decades.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma supposed pull counter in that video is nothing like Mayweather's and not really comparable in the slightest. I wouldn't even call it a pull counter more a slip counter. Loma is doing more what Pac does in slipping the lead by either stepping inside or outside with a counter punch like when Pac splits the jab.

    Mayweather due to his reach and the way he leaned forward so he could then pull back to be perfectly balanced to counter didn't need to step in at all to land which could see you countered coming in. Loma's slip counter may have more power on them because of the step forward adding momentum but Mayweather's pull counter is defensively superior as there's no risk of stepping into a counter yourself, even if you get countered your perfectly balanced to take the shot unlike with slipping inside or outside.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    OMG! He sets up his shots with feints, Floyd never did that and he lands more shots than Floyd did and he throws better combos, he was stringing 8 punch combo`s together v Commey.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Didn`t you see him constantly pull counter v Commey? His head movement was insane and he was always in range to land a punch.
     
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