We have lost the lineal title

The RIng Magazine has stolen the Linear Champions and made its own champions, usually they are top of the division but not always outright defined best - Vitali getting the ring belt was premature.

 

The lineal title has meant sweet fa to me since people regarded Spinks as champ in the months before the Tyson fight. I haven't taken it seriously since.

 

The linear title has always had situations like that 1 though, where the best fighter hasnt beaten the champ yet

 

You're right.

 

who is the linear champ at lightweight?

 

Marquez, although Campbell beat the unified champ in Diaz

 

there was a time when casamayor,aging and inactive,was seen as the champ over an undefeated champion who had scored back to back unification wins?
thats why it doesnt hold much weight with me.
isnt erdei linear champ at lhw?

 

The lineal title means pratically nothing anymore.

Can you honestly say that Zsolt Erdei is the best 175?

 

But in this case the best fighter had all the titles too.

 

The system for determining the lineal champion has never been satisfactory or consistent.

There is no lineal progresion from John L Sullivan to Lennox Lewis that does not employ inconsistent criteria for example.

This (taken from CBZ) is normaly taken as the heavyweight lineage:

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James J. Corbett

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James J. Jeffries

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Jack Johnson
Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney

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Jack Sharkey
Primo Carnera
Max Baer
James J. Braddock
Joe Louis

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"Jersey" Joe Walcott
Rocky Marciano

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Ingemar Johansson
Floyd Patterson
Charles "Sonny" Liston
Cassius Clay
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Muhammad Ali
Leon Spinks
Muhammad Ali

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Michael Spinks

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James "Buster" Douglas
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
George Foreman
Shannon Briggs

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Hasim Rahman
Lennox Lewis

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If this is the lineage then there are about half a dozen inconsistencies in terms of how the tittle changes hands.

 

The irony is that Vitally's claim to the lineal title is somewhat stronger than Marvin Hart's, yet nobody questions Harts lineal title claim and everybody questions VK's.

There is no consistency.

 

The linear title can only be passed on in the ring
Hart was not a linear champion the moment that Jefferies came back the linear title passed from him to Johnson. True lineage stopped when Tunney retired with the belt. A new lineage was formed due to only one belt existing this too was stopped upon Marcianos retirement. Once again a new lineage was created and ran through until Lewis retired with his title still intact. Until someone becomes unified and therefore undisputed by the major 3 or 4 sanctioning bodies (WBA,WBC, IBF possibly WBO) lineage is unable to be created again.

 

Im not saying that what you propose is wrong but it would require extensive revision of the lineage as it stands.

Hart and Burns would be out.

If Schmeling Sharkey I established a new lineage then you have the complication of another version of the title existing at this point.

The3re are probably mopre issues.