We have lost the lineal title

Jear · Nov 16, 2008

janitor said:

The alternative based on my option B would be this:

New line created by Klitschko beating Sanders?

Line broken
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Yes definately has merit, I just struggle with VK on a one win streak and Sanders with a win over WK, Tisdale and Sprott being considered the best heavyweights around when Byrd was fighting and beating the likes of Holy, Mcline, Golota, Tua and Oquendo over a 3 or four year period without a loss or Ruiz who fought Golota, Oquendo, Rahman and Holy over the same period, sure he lost to Jones, but Rahman had knocked out Sanders and VK had been stopped by Lewis
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janitor · Nov 16, 2008

Jear said:

janitor said:

Yes definately has merit, I just struggle with VK on a one win streak and Sanders with a win over WK, Tisdale and Sprott being considered the best heavyweights around when Byrd was fighting and beating the likes of Holy, Mcline, Golota, Tua and Oquendo over a 3 or four year period without a loss or Ruiz who fought Golota, Oquendo, Rahman and Holy over the same period, sure he lost to Jones, but Rahman had knocked out Sanders and VK had been stopped by Lewis
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I am not setting myself up as the defender of Ring Magazines policies.

I am just saying that Marvin Hart probably had a more shaky claim to the lineal title than VK.
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PowerPuncher · Nov 16, 2008

janitor said:

Should n'thas verry little to do with it.

The fact is they did.

Also "fair" has nothing to do with it either.

It is just a point of technicality.
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Is the Ring Magazine the only boxing body that counts that defines the Linear Title? I say no, especially now its owned by a promoter

janitor · Nov 16, 2008

PowerPuncher said:

Is the Ring Magazine the only boxing body that counts that defines the Linear Title? I say no
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It is the only one that claims to unless you want to set up your own organisation.

Jear · Nov 16, 2008

janitor said:

Jear said:

I am not setting myself up as the defender of Ring Magazines policies.

I am just saying that Marvin Hart probably had a more shaky claim to the lineal title than VK.
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Haha yeah Jefferies decides who should fight for his title and then referees it very shaky.
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janitor · Nov 16, 2008

Jear said:

janitor said:

Haha yeah Jefferies decides who should fight for his title and then referees it very shaky.
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A better analogy would be:

Lennox Lewis retires.

Don King anounces that he will arrange a fight between two heavyweights from his stable (who are not the best or brightest) to decide the new champion.

Lets say Ruiz and Ramhan.

King pays Lewis to oversee the fight to lend it legitimacy.

That is basicaly what happened when Hart won the lineal title.
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PowerPuncher · Nov 16, 2008

janitor said:

Jear said:

A better analogy would be:

Lennox Lewis retires.

Don King anounces that he will arrange a fight between two heavyweights from his stable (who are not the best or brightest) to decide the new champion.

Lets say Ruiz and Ramhan.

King pays Lewis to oversee the fight to lend it legitimacy.

That is basicaly what happened when Hart won the lineal title.
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Yes but the Ruiz-Rahman fight has as much legitimacy as Vitali-Sanders
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