We have to appreciate prime Deontay Wilder was one of the hardest hitters in boxing history

lol. You do know boxers build their records with journeymen? Every fighter in history has done this.
This is a journeyman’s job

 

This is not a journeyman by a long shot

 

Just 1?

Have you heard of julio cesar Chavez? Regarded as the best Mexican fighter ever…
Nichols was 4-2. Compared to Chavez’ record, Nichols was a high risk fight. lol.

it’s how boxing works and different managers bring different fighters on with a different method.

 

your right, a 4-2 record is better than journeyman. They usually have losing records. remember Peter Buckley? Nearly every featherweight world champ round that era went through him and he had a few hundred losses.

 

I didn’t realise this boxing forum has so many people who don’t know boxing in it.

 

It's OK keep at you will learn

 

And this guy who can’t comprehend English. It’s taught in primary schools, starting around the age of 6.

 

Did you look at Chavez record? You said name one and I did or are you ignoring that?

 

I see so you are turning g to insults now says a lot about you tbh

 

I thought we was talking about heavyweights besides Julio Cesar Chavez went on to fight and beat some of the best and him having that amount of fight was not the norm for a modern boxer so not really compatible

 

Didn’t you first say I will learn from you guys?

look pal, I’m not in to school type stuff, but I posted suprised at how little people understand boxing…or it’s just their hatred of a certain fighter clouds them. I thought on a boxing forum people would understand the business.

So you directed something at me, so responded as you hadn’t understood what I said and it gets tiring.

I can’t be bothered with the playground stuff, you asked for 1 world champ and I named one. Task complete.

 

Still, you asked for one world champ and I named one…how they are brought on is the whole point. Different strokes for different folks.
If a true all time great like Chavez can start off so slowly, why can’t others? Who knew Chavez would get to where he got.

they start learning the trade on journeyman, that’s the journeyman’s job.

I’ll name world champ heavy’s if you want. Most if not all of them will have a guy worse than 4-2 on their record. Take your pick.

 

Worse record yeah sure 100% but how many of them will have fought a worse opponent than Dustin Nichols?

That was literally irresponsible and dangerous and no one who is being lined up as a future heavyweight champion had any business fighting him it done nothing for him except add another KO to his record you can argue it done more harm than good as it will always be used against him

 

Again, I’m not sure your understanding what I am writing. (I do appreciate my grammar etc may not be 100% as im using my phone)

I said “I’ll name world champ heavy’s if you want. Most if not all of them will have a guy worse than 4-2 on their record. Take your pick.”

I’m saying most, if not all world champion heavyweights or other weights will have similar or worse opponents earlier in their career. So how many will have fought someone worse than Nichols? Plenty.

when you turn pro, you are either the ticket seller/prospect, or the opponent.
Early on, this opponent is basically a paid loser. Whether he is nice to look at or not (in Nichols case) is irrelevant.
nichols record at the time was not even that bad for that level of fighter.
A 2:1 win/loss ratio. Many have beat guys with worse records, but they’re not always put on YouTube by someone.

what this does for prospects is help them learn/practice their trade/craft in a fight. it is completely normal and I can only think of one fighter off the top of my head who did do this…lomachenko.

 

Yes all fighters have easy fights to start off against fighters who are there to get beat but they are still professional fighters this was not that. Nichols was in no way a professional fighter in any shape or form no professional boxers looks lime that do you honestly think he trains, he looked like he was going to have a heart attack after 1 round and could bearly move he wouldn't even be able to go 10 rounds shadow boxing let alone in a real fight that is what I am trying to say the guy makes butterbean look like a God and to say say he is the same as any other journeyman is a insult to the boxers who actually train and fight for a living no matter at what level