We lost on an unification fight, but got two better fights instead....what's not to like?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by timeout, May 18, 2021.


Whats better?

  1. Unification fight all the way - AJ vs FURY

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  2. Two for one - AJ vs USYK / FURY vs WILDER3

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel like if Aj beat Fury you'd just Blame Fury's inactivity and if Aj beat Usyk you'd just say Usyk came in to heavy.
     
  2. Odins beard

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    When have ever alluded to anything of the sort?
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not sure, it's just you write all of Ajs wins off. In all honesty Aj's win over Povetkin is far more impressive that Fury's win over Wilder. Wilder is overrated and his only good win is Luis Ortiz
     
  4. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    So I write ALL of AJ’s wins off do I?

    Proof please....
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You wrote his win over whyte off but the truth is Whyte has a better resume than Wilder, Whyte went life and death with Chisora but still beat him and has also beaten Oscar Rivas. Rivas doesn't sound like a good name until you realize Rivas beat Bryant Jennings, the same Jennings that people hype Ortiz up for beating, the same Ortiz that people hype Wilder up for beating. And Pulev isn't that good but he did comfortably beat Chisora.

    Objectively speaking Aj has a better resume than Fury. No matter how much you hate the guy it's practically the truth. Fury is getting hyped for beating Wilder but Wilder himself only has 1 noteworthy win
     
  6. Odins beard

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    When did I write off his win against Whyte and what EXACTLY did I say?
     
  7. Odins beard

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    Never said Pulev is not good what I did point out though that he was 39 when AJ fought him and iirc he fought Chisora 5 years before that.
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

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    It seems like you were brushing off whyte. He's not elite but he's a decent fighter and if you dont consider him a decent fighter you still have Ajs win over old Povetkin. I can understand you writing off Parker though, he should have lost to old Chisora
     
  9. Odins beard

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    And Parker arguably beat Whyte.

    I said after the top 3/4 (Fury, Wilder, AJ and Usyk) there is a massive drop off in talent (Povetkin at 40 is done).

    I consider Pulev, Whyte, Parker etc around the same level, they are solid wins for AJ but nothing special especially after Parker has done nothing post AJ and very little pre AJ, Whyte has improved since their first initial fight and Pulev is 39, he’s old and at the tail end of his career.

    Regarding his victory over Povetkin, you proved my point in your post by referring to him as “old Povetkin “.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

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    It was a close fight but no, Parker lost. I do not see how people think Parker won. And it doesn't matter if Povetkin was old because when he was still old he beat top 10 fighter Whyte and he did this 2 years after Aj beat him
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

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    These wins are nothing special but overall Aj's resume is still better than Fury's. It's not like im saying Aj beats prime Wlad or prime Larry Holmes or prime Lennox Lewis
     
  12. Odins beard

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    And that as I’ve already said it says more about Whytes true level at this time as opposed to what a 39/40yo Povetkin was at the time, which was 4/5 years removed from his best.

    Parker also just got a gift against Chisora, now if you want me to say how great AJ’s victories over Parker, Whyte, old Povetkin and Pulev are then I’m afraid you won’t get any; solid? Yes no doubt but that’s about it.
     
  13. BubblesUK

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    Interesting... When you say 3/4, which of the 4 is marginal to include in this group?

    I think you could argue at the very least that there's a massive drop off in HW resume after the top 2 (AJ and Fury).

    Setting Usyk aside as relatively unproven at HW and next to impossible to place within the division yet - I'm not sure I'd argue Wilder belongs in the same sentence as Fury and AJ, he's simply not proven at anything like the same levels.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    Whyte also beat Oscar Rivas and if you wanna write that win off then lets write off Wilders win over old ass Luis Ortiz because Luis Ortiz's only notable win is Bryant Jennings, same as Rivas's

    I've already stated that if you dont consider Parker a top fighter thats fine because neither do i. You take parker away Aj's resume is still better than Fury's
     
  15. Odins beard

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    Skill wise Wilder is below, however he has got a decent resume
    I’m beginning to think that you may be in fact Dillian Whyte....

    If you do not consider Parker to be a top fight then surely you must put Whyte in that EXACT same category.

    He arguably lost to Chisora (just like Parker), he literally went life and death with Parker (some people had Parker winning), that’s just two comparisons of the two fighters, the only difference is Parker is an ex world champion with a victory over Ruiz jr who smashed AJ and made him quit.