Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by timeout, May 18, 2021.
Very true and if Fury-Joshua isn’t happening next then these are the fights I’d like to see. I’d just rather see Fury Joshua now and these after lol.
It's boggling - not very much else he got right, mind...
Ah I know, it's an old Deontay quote.
Ah okay must've missed that one
Couldn't help the dig all the same, don't mind me lol
Povetkin is shot NOW. Covid ****ed his body up and Whyte destroyed him because of it. But before covid he sparked out Whyte. It means something because Whyte has a better resume than Wilder. Wilder never FOUGHT Povetkin at ANY stage of his career so we dont know if he would have beaten him or not. Wilder avoided Whyte for years and publicly admitted he ducked Joshua.
Does it make any difference ? Before he got KO'D by Tarver he previously was at 175 before he went up to heavyweight so that proves my point even more. He never got sparked out before weighing in at heavyweight but after he lost the mass he got KO"d by Tarver. Same with Ruiz. He lost tons of weight quicker than his body could adapt and his punch resistance got effected.
Also if Arreola was never rated to begin with thin that makes Wilders resume even poorer, so only Ortiz. Then ? Yeah Whytes resume is better. Wilder is a hype job
Joshua v Lovejoy in Arabia Is a good match up. Both have only one defeat.
Ruiz had 17 months inbetween AJ and Arreola, 17 months is more than enough time to gradually drop 20lbs.
I never said Arreola has never been rated, he was about 10 years ago, currently he’s not and he’s just given Ruiz far more trouble at 40 than he did Wilder when he was active, if you cannot see this (which you obviously cannot because you are dense as ****) you have no time being on here.
As for Povetkin, again, last time now him beating Whyte at 39 showed how “ordinary” Whyte is, Whyte should not be losing to Povetkin at that stage in his career if he is going to be a future world champion (which he will never be).
Again you’ll just deflect and make stuff up.
In that AJ has been fighting the best in the division the past 5 year and its been over 5 years since Fury even fought a decent opponent.
In that apart from Fury having better head upper body movement (foot work is debatable now) AJ is better in every other arritbute.
Again, that's your opinion and something you bleet on about incessantly - so you can't state it as fact. Wilder may lack basic skills and fudementals but he's beaten everyone except for Fury and has ridiculous power. Until more he loses more fights it's unfair to say he isn't 'decent'. He clearly is.
The second part again is just your opinion and difficult to quantify. The issue is you state your opinions as facts.
Wilder beaten everyone except Fury he has fought but so what? The best he has beaten Ortiz, Duhaupas Spzilka and Washington. I'd favour 3ven Chalres Martin or Chisora to beat all of them guys.
Ok great - thanks for sharing your opinion again. We will see, I think there's a reasonable chance Wilder could beat Fury - he can never be written off with that power.
I said "that's not saying much".
Which means, he's light years ahead because they are terrible.
Not light years ahead of Fury, or Joshua, just Stiverne etc...
Just light years ahead of those i mentioned...which i think he is.
What's a "limmey"?
You meant "limey" didn't you?
You talk about "mental gymnastics" and then go on a cringe laden rant, desperately trying to soothe the butthurt.
Unfortunately, for the sport, but more importantly for your argument, the current crop of American heavyweights are awful...truly terrible.
They are the worst American heavyweights in boxing history.
They are irrelevant.
Britain is now the epicentre of heavyweight boxing, or at the very least the British fighters are.
I know that upsets you, as your fragile American ego relies on you thinking you are the best.
But, at the moment, it's not true.
Instead of accepting it with good grace and dignity, and, in the case of Fury, saying the best man won, you concoct some pathetic fairy tale and then act like it's a fact.
Seriously, it's pitiful.
P.S if "mega boxing money is in the U.S", why was the undisputed heavyweight championship going to be fought in Saudi Arabia?
Oops, reality check.
America is not the centre of boxing anymore.
Stop crying about it and continue the grieving process.
You've displayed denial, anger, so when do we get acceptance?
And i disagree and it is tiresome very tiresome.