we need a larry holmes

The level of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.

Holmes reigned seven and a half years with nineteen defences. At his peak he barely lost rounds and on the way up met some excellent contenders,

The first fight with Norton is one of the finest heavyweight fights in history and the Spoon fight is severely under rated.

Wins over Norton, Shavers, Witherspoon, Carl Williams, Bonecrusher Smith. What more do you need on an undefeated run of 48 fights? Calzaghe gets hailed as a God at 168 and his resume doesn't touch that.

Holmes was 35 and completely past it when he lost to Michael Spinks.

How many of you give Ali a hard time for losing to Leon (who couldn't tie Michael's boots). Hypocrisy!

Embarrasing thread.

 

I give Ali a hard time.

People also say the Mike Tyson loss was a great win for Tyson

 

It's multi factoral.

Ali was 36 with the opening stages of Parkinson's syndrome and that is the only reason Leon Spinks went thirty rounds with him.

Tyson's "performance" against Holmes was awesome but the win itself is tainted because Holmes was 38 and laid off.

If a great fighter loses when he's old there's usually a pretty decent reason for it and most of the time it's old age or wear and tear.

Holmes losing to Michael Spinks falls into both categories. Athletes didn't last as long in Holmes' day as they do now.

 

fighters like a young Tyson are just stylistic made for older targets.
No longer the speed so they become a punching bag once their opponent is fast enough.

Also didn't Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay then) need smelling salts to win from Henry Cooper.
A bad cut above Cooper his left eye became a TKO6 for Clay in the end...
Sound familiar?

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Also ahead on scorecards.
Rather funny to think about it.

But Ali should have lost by DQ, he got lucky his armpit caught the rope and he didn't hit the floor or it might have been a KO.


Also Larry Holmes - Eric Esch was cool.
Holmes showed he had enough skills (and reach + size advantage) to keep Butterbean on the outside.
Butterbean was also nice as it was his first 10 round ever and didn't gas.

 

Ali took a liberty with Cooper and got what he deserved. Dundee opened an amonia file under his nose. Does that mean Ali NEEDED it? His trainer took a chance and with 30 years of boxing acumen behind him, knew he would get away with it.

Glad you're appreciative of Holmes' talent but bemused as to why you would use Butterbean as a barometer of his skill.

LSD instead of milk at shool today?

 

you mean a black heavyweight champion? no not gonna happen :rasta

now thank the k bros

go on now thank um

 

he mad at the k bros they aren't tanned enough for his liking

 

spinks is a hall of famer till he gets questioned with tyson then he becomes a blown up light heavyweight :nono

 

holmes was too shy and soft spoken? what ****ing fights were you watching jack ass

alot of people give a **** about rockys record ... mainly black people if they didn't they wouldn't drone on about it as much as they do

the night rock blasted out a prime world class heavyweight like joe louis

:scaredas: took the color right out of their faces

 

Haha, but Larry was 52 at that age.
If he couldn't keep Butterbean away he would have been brutally KO'd.

He did what many men couldn't do (in their prime) while being 52.
But at times Bean could really show some quality.(for what he was)
His fight against McNeely was also a good one.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsJ9BMfshfQ[/ame]

 

Mate, come off it.

99% of the time, if Butterbean didn't have you KO'd in the first thirty seconds, he resorted to pursuing you like a toy robot.

Address Holmes between 1978-1985 and you do him justice. "Most" of what came thereafter is irrelevent.

 

Holmes was the ****ing man, he was an absolute beast that could do everything.

3rd best HW ever imo and the GOAT as far as H2H goes.

 

Holmes was the man.

 

The fifteenth round with ken norton is probably one of the greatest rounds in history. Boxrec experts are hilarious to me. Dude was great. I personally think he would boxed vitali an wlads ears off. Just my opinion. I think lewis woulda kicked his ass and a few others. Wasnt the best heavy ever but a damn tough fight for anybody.

 

Oh yeah, cause Larry was the epitomy of exciting.............. :rofl atsch