we need a larry holmes

oops.

 

When Lennox Lewis got lazy 2 times, people suddenly question him.
But oh no, stay away from Ali, he is sacred.

Not taking everything serious is a flaw.

Also it wasn't really next round as in a 1 minute break, he had a 3-5 minute break including smelling therapy.
That is worth a DQ.

Also he still got lucky his armpit caught the rope or his head would have smacked to the floor and that would have become a KO.


It always seems like Ali is getting some double standard.
He winning something he actually should have lost is:"He was just toying with him"

Yet people doubt Mike Tyson because he lost his concentration on the sport.
Lennox Lewis got lazy and people now doubt him.
Wladimir had made some mistakes and taking things not serious enough (also his trainer before Steward wasn't really great)
foreman wasn't the same anymore after the Ali loss.
Joe Louis got lazy against Schmeling 1.

It seems ONLY Ali is immune to this, like he is some kind of god.
No he isn't, he has the same flaws and people shouldn't hold double standards for Ali

On a sidenote: "could of" and "would of" is could have and would have.
"could of" is gramatically incorrect.


Edit yet again: going 15 rounds with Shavers isn't something to proud of either.(And I've read it was a robbery too)

 

man Berbick was out from that dropkick :bbb

 

I will never understand why ppl. don't give him more **** for blatantly ducking Page and dropping the WBC belt in the process, something that another american HW, Bowe did some 10 years later.
Could you imagine the huge backlash if Lennox or the Kbros would had dropped one of their belts in order to duck the nr1 contender?

Not only that Larry Holmes's era was ****, he also choose to duck his best opponents.

 

b-b-but how can you debate the past?

YOU MONSTER.

 

You're still missing the point. What era's are better or weaker than other has nothing to do with how big the fighters were. Its about the skills and talent, the competition going on then and there. You seem to want to magically transport every fighter to today for h2h fantasy fights that can never happen. How about touching base on the points I made about skills? These are points that can be shown and proven.

And by the way.....Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers, David Haye, Micheal Moorer, Adamek and others would be true cuiserweights in most other era's. What you're not seeing is many fighters from the past would be much bigger today given the fact they would be lifting weights, unlike the past where it was thought to tighten you up and slow you down.

 

When I see weaker I see:"A 185lbs guy can take on the modern superheavies and cruisers-goneheavy", I think that's wrong.
Joe Louis ofcourse can defeat some of those superheavies, mainly the bummier ones.
But if he already nearly got propelled out of the ring by Baer, I don't think he would survive a guy like Wladimir for example.


I hope I see now how you define weak and strong is that you mean:"A skilled era is a strong one".
That might be true, probably. Inside fighters are probably most of the time inferior in skill. (though h2h the new superheavies have the brute power advantage)

But when I think of weak and strong eras I think about h2h scenarios(and past fighters have disadvantages of overall lesser size and knowledge on body/nutrition).

You think about skill, I don't think one comparison is more valid than the other.
But I personally prefer to see someone calling an unskilled era, an unskilled era instead of "weak era" to keep it less confusing.

 

Lol, you've read it was a robbery? I guess that tells us all we need to know of your extensive knowledge of boxing history!

 

Lets put it this way. Vitaly is the second best fighter today. Now I consider him much more accomplished than Primo Carnera, but he has the same exact fighting style. What does that tell you?

 

Stop smoking crack.

Race has nothing to do with it.

Holmes was the real deal. The Klitschko sisters are merely prentenders to the throne.

Holmes on his worst day > either Klitschko on his best day...

 

Using illegal smelling salts isn't worth a DQ according to you?

(Also not adding a space isn't a grammar mistake, and can always backpedal on my malfunctioning keyboard.
Also you might have never seen it but I never capitalize my f, as the key is broken on my keyboard, you can check all my posts for it.
I have to copy paste it.

Sorry, but you don't have the same excuse for your stupid grammatical error which is 100% wrong.)

 

You mean the Holmes that went 10 rounds with Butterbean and afterwards claimed he possibly hit harder than Shavers?

 

Bring back the 15 rounders and we'll see what happens to these 250lb "Super" Heavyweights. I'd bet my bottom dollar that they would go the way of the dinosaur...

 

Why not bring David Tua to the 60s and let him fight the Ali that fought Cooper.
He would toy around until the left hook connects, then it would be endgame.

:hi::hi:

Also of all the 2600+ fights Ali his opponents had there were a shocking +-10KOs in rounds 13,14,15.

Bye bye

 

Well than why wasn't he DQ'd than? Was the BBBoC trying to keep Cooper down and Ali undefeated? Where they even illegal at the time in the UK? They were still legal in the US, but I've heard there were not in the UK. That begs the question, did the Ali camp even know this? Its not like it matters, Ali was up at the count of 4.....live with it.

As far as you still going on about errors in grammar....Lmao!! I was clowning you. I could care less about grammar on a boxing website as long as I can understand the jist of whats being said. With that said, it shows how weak your argument is that you've chosen to focus on grammar rather than the facts of which we're talking about. :yep