we need a larry holmes

That's because HWs from the 15 round era were IN SHAPE. You have to be in order to box effectively for 15 rounds, Genius.

What do you think happens when one of these modern "Super" blubberweights hears the bell for rounds 13, 14, 15? You'd better keep the oxygen tank handy...

 

Joe Louis already got propelled out of the ring by Baer.
Imagine what would have happened if a guy like Lennox Lewis (the GOAT) or Wladimir who are both far better than Baer would do to the poor soul.

 

I know right? Imagine Tua against Ali, it would look like Tua's murderous destruction of Chris Byrd...only worse!

 

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I was already done with the facts and gave it as an extra, I added them at the end because they were outside my arguments, it had nothing to do with boxing. But it is still something that bothers people from non English countries.

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They have a hard enough time going 12 easy rounds. Show me one heavyweight today who could sustain the 15 round pace from the first Ali-Frazier fight...there isn't one! :good

 

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Wrong again.

 

You weren't "done" with the facts because you're still ducking my post talking about skills of today as compared to the past.

Who said lack of knowledge was an excuse? I asked a question. The fact remains though that Ali was up at 4, and IF he should have been DQ'd you have nobody to blame but the BBBoC.

And no I wouldn't be screaming about Wlad...he never made it back to the corner to begin with!! :rofl

 

It was a T.K.O 2 not an one.

Also I've already said modern heavyweights might be less skilled.(In other thread probably)
Modern day inside fighters? Yes, they're certainly less skilled.

But after certain points brute power trumps skill.

 

Yeah I know, that's why Primo Carnera (same style as Vits but stronger) beat up Joe Louis, right? Same thing with The Baer brothers and Abe Simon. Same thing with Dempsey against Willard, Langford against anyone, Ali against Foreman, Tyson against Smith, Holy against Bowe, etc., etc., etc..Do you know anything about boxing, son?

 

Huh?

He.....never.....made.....it.....back......to.....his corner.......to.......get......smelling salts.........even if.......his team........wanted to.........use them. In other words, Ali was able to get up at 4. Wlad was beat to **** and didn't know where he was.

 

Past it Holmes beat Ray Mercer far more convincingly than prime Lennox Lewis did.

 

All of the aforementioned,except for Ali and Foreman,were knocked the **** out.Muhammed Ali was NEVER knocked the **** out(NEVER),only stopped by the ref against Holmes because he was a shot,shot corpse that couldn't defend himself.Lewis was ko'd by a B- fighter,and was stopped by another one.Ali was SHOT when he fought Shavers.Surprised you can't see that.There are no double standards here.

 

:goodWhy let the truth get in the way?

 

I don't know....call it sportsmanship! :good

 

I got Wlad ranked 16 and with time to move up. What exactly gets him in the top 10?