We need a serious discussion about Usyk's effectiveness last night

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  1. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    To heck with the relativism, say I.

    Boozerweight (and now bridgerweight) are superfluous gimmick divisions designed to spin money for sanctioning bodies. All boxers above 175 are heavyweights. Every 175–200 lb man with any real ambition will always end up dropping his boozerweight straps, quitting the caloric deficit and embarking on a quest for the marquee honors. Not just for money, but for history.

    Fury is an unprecedented heavyweight.
     
  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Why can't you be a good sport and give Usyk credit?
     
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury regressed in wilder 3 and whyte but usyk was less effective in the rematch with Joshua

    I picked usyk after he beat Joshua the first time now my pick is flipping back to fury

    I think in spots Joshua showed exactly what you need to do to beat usyk and I think Fury is capable of doing that for 12 total rounds

    It's just a matter of what form he shows up in
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    What credit do you want me to give?

    Didn't show anything better or new.. I want to see the best Usyk the touted man who can beat Tyson Fury and that man has not shown his face at HW yet.

    He got what he came for and anything else is just a bonus. He could retire tomorrow and be regarded as the best CW ever.

    I am firm in my opinion that as time goes on it only favours Fury more, Usyk from a few years ago stood a better chance.
     
  5. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Usyk clearly beat AJ, he would have got no bonus in going for the KO.

    Yes Furys size would be a massive challenge for Usyk to deal with, but the boxing computer brain of Usyk will find ways of using an opponents size advantage against them, now whether he could do that against Fury we as yet do not know.
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Because hes living in Furys lower intestine.
     
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  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    :roflmao:

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  8. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I thought Usyk boxed very well tbh. He has some early rounds off as usual to dominate the final rounds.

    He outboxed Joshua easily.
     
  9. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s definitely relevant, because Fury is the exact same fighter he was in 2009, and hasn’t improved at all in the past 13 years…
     
  10. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Fat boy's cousin was just murdered, expect him to get hard into the ****, smash rails of nose candy again and then seek sympathy from the public.

    Usyk is living in the big man's head, rent-free. He's going to drive him back to depression and his 7 deadly sins.

    Peter Fury knows the truth, he's even stated that the only man on this earth who can beat Tyson, is Usyk.
     
  11. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    • Credit where credit is due for dethroning Wlad
    • Dropped 4 times by one of the most limited heavyweights in the division - Wilder is shithouse and always has been
    • Went life and death with plus-2200 odds, Otto Wallin
    • Got popped for PED use
    • 'Retired from the sport' during his PED use stand-down, ate himself half-to-death and consumed more cocaine than David Bowie
    • Has 3 MASSIVE wins over ATG, HOF-worthy opponents in Sefer Seferi, Pianeta, Schwarz
    Did I miss anything?

    OH! The knockout of the completely shot, Whyte.

    What a groundbreaking 13 years :eek::eek::eek::eek: :risas3:
     
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  12. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    This