Weakest champion who could beat Tyson from RJJ bout?

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony AJ has no chin Full Member

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    no way, Tyson looked far quicker.
     
  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Practically all of them beat Mike. In 2004 and 2005 he was stopped early by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride, respectively. Almost two decades later Mike is most certainly much slower, much weaker and much less able to take a punch. In the Jones bout Tyson was basically out of energy by the end of round three. Mike has pretty much no chance to beat these guys.
     
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Call me cynical brother and I know he was shot then. But I think he threw the fights with Williams and McBride

    He was in massive debt and it wouldn't surprise me if he made money to lose. He was absolutely piecing Williams up, then looks 'injured' before being stopped while wide awake

    It's possible he didn't want it anymore, but I honestly had a hunch at the time he didn't want to beat Williams. Had he beaten him? He was expected to fight Vitali and I doubt Mike wanted another Lewis style beaten at this age, so took a way out again

    Again, this is just a crazy opinion, but I do think this is plausible wheb you watch the fights lol
     
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  4. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    This is boxing and stranger things have definitely happened, You could be right.
     
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  5. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Until we see someone compete into their 50s, the answer is: "are you stupid?"
     
  6. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony AJ has no chin Full Member

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    No, Tyson dominated Jones and looked far quicker and in better shape than he was in the mid 2000`s.
     
  7. gneall

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    Well, a 20 year younger version didn't get past the Danny Williams and Kevin McBrides.. Why do you think Tyson beats father time? He could probably beat a lot of much lighter current champions, if they fought with that massive weight disadvantage, but not heavies..
     
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  8. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony AJ has no chin Full Member

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    Tyson was far quicker than McBride v Jones, he was in great shape.
     
  9. gneall

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    I'm sure he looked better visually in an exhibition bout, against another 50-something. But we're talking champions..
     
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  10. Mark Anthony

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    There have been some awful champions but none of them as awful as McBride, a 50 something Jones is still quicker than McBride.
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Nobody knows what OP is trying to say, but this is actually an interesting topic. What is the biological age limit for a top level pugilistic athlete? Based on a few rare outliers I would have to guess early-mid 50s. I think Big George still had a few good years left in him if he wanted it badly enough. Foreman had a lot of things lining up for him - Genetic specimen, taking a good decade off, and becoming a much smarter fighter as he aged to mitigate the decline in skills/reflexes. Hopkins wasn't the specimen Foreman was, but his style itself coupled with his discipline and likely good genetics helped keep in the game for as long as it did.
     
  12. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony AJ has no chin Full Member

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    Tyson was in better shape than Foreman v Jones and quicker too.
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Dude, STFU... YDKSAB
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony AJ has no chin Full Member

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    Foreman did well to stop Moorer but wasn`t quick at all by the mid 90`s, Moorer was standing right in front of him despite boxing his ears off for most of that iconic fight.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You idiot. Foreman was still competing throughout his 40s and holding his own with world rated opposition. Tyson/Jones was a fake exhibition match. The last fights Tyson had in his late 30s his body/mental toughness were totally gone, old Foreman would have smashed Williams and McBride.