Weakest World Champs ever who were Brits?

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  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Robinson lost to one of Britains all time greats and enjoyed an excellent career.There have been far worse so called champions than him
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Total fights 51
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  3. koartist2012

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    to be fair to robinson his record is far better than it suggest , can recall a LOT of split decisions going against him , being welsh black and fighting in england in the 80s was not a fair playing groud on scorecards , knocked out duke mckenzie with body shots but was known as the cinderella man , was amazed he won a world title albeit the wbo in the 90s , hoko was koed in the fight before robinson for wbc belt so was not in any p4p list lol
     
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    forgot to mention nicky cooke also ? if you class beating alex arthur world title worthy , wbo again !
     
  5. Bulldog24

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    The two P4P lists were in Ring and KO mags. Never saw Hoko.

    I saw Benn and Hamed in it in 95, joint 10th. Hamed on the strength of his performance against Robinson.

    At the start of 95 Roy Jones was #1 and Gerald McClellan #2. Yet when Benn beat McClellan, he didn’t jump in at #2 or anything.

    (McClellan had already beaten Jones in 88 in the Golden Gloves just before they turned pro, a fair 3-2 points decision in what Manny Steward declared a better fight at a higher level than Hagler-Hearns!)
     
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  6. Bulldog24

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    Steve Farhood, editor of KO, was very tempted to place Chris Eubank in at 7 or 8 at the end of 1990. But felt he would prove himself to the American public in the near future anyway, which he didn’t.
     
  7. Bulldog24

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    He did go with Khosai Galaxy in there though after destroying Ford in Thailand. Another not known in America.
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    Farhood and Eubank had history:

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  9. mark ant

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    No way was G-man and Jones as good as Hagler and Hearns in the amateurs.
     
  10. Bulldog24

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    The level their fight was fought at was off the page apparently
     
  11. Noel857

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    Have you actually seen the G man v Jones fight Mark?
     
  12. mark ant

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    No way could amateurs match Hagler and Hearns, G-man didn`t even look as good as Hagler when he fought Jackson and Jones didn`t look that great in the olympics.
     
  13. Bulldog24

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    Later on in 1988, at the National Golden Gloves, Roy won his first three matches. The first one was a decision over Thomas Tate. He also scored a 3rd. round stoppage over defending National 165 pound Champion and Future NABF Champion Fabian Williams. Those victories set up a fight that someone should have taped for obvious reasons. The semifinal match was Roy Jones taking on Gerald McClellan. You would expect this fight to be very exciting. It was more than that. It was a WAR. One of the greatest examples of speed and power that I have seen in an amateur Boxing match. I remember that Roy was forced back to the ropes often in the fight but that what made the fight so thrilling was the way Roy would FURIOUSLY fight off the ropes with flurries. It was like watching two Olympic athletes fight for the Gold Medal or two guys going for the world professional championship.

    Omaha World-Herald: “Two 1987 Champs, 156 pounder Roy L. Jones of Knoxville and 132 pound Donald Stokes of Louisiana, were eliminated last night.

    Gerald McClellan of Milwaukee crowded Jones most of the first two rounds in pounding out a decision triumph. The 156 pound McClellan was there to slug with Jones from the opening bell, and carried the first round. Jones spent a lot of that time along the ropes.

    Jones showed some movement in a fairly close second and then scored well in the early part of the third. McClellan was stronger at the finish when he again pounded Jones along the ropes and in a corner.”

    I saw Gerald a month later at Sugar Ray’s training Camp in Maryland and he told me he wouldn’t be able to spar for a while longer because his jaw was still hurting from the fight with Roy.



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  14. Bulldog24

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    I’d love to see it. Teddy Atlas and Johnny Bos used to rave about 17-year-old Chris Eubank Sr’s showing against Mark Breland in the NYC Golden Gloves (outboxing him until disputed stoppage!) - love to see that and would LOVE to see the Rod Douglas-Nigel Benn split brace a year apart at York Hall (total wars they say) in 85-86
     
  15. EJC83

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    Fighting in the division when there was prime Cruiser Usyk, prime Glowacki, Briedis, Dorticos, Gassiev, managing to avoid them all to become WBC Champion, having a ridiculous first defence against Flores and then avoiding all of those mentioned to appear in two pantomime shows with David Haye, Tony Bellew has to get a mention. Of course he eventually fought someone from that era worthy of being in a World Title fight and after 8 rounds he, on mic and camera, had no idea what was going on, he got home safely to his gobby wife and kids though and retired with a quiet dignity.