Weakness of the following fighters:

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Oscar de la Roa, Feb 22, 2008.


  1. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    PBF (Cant find any)
    Miguel Cotto
    Kermit Cintron
    Ricky Hatton
    Mosley
    JMM
    PAcquiao
    Juan Diaz
    Rafael Marquez
    Vladimir Klitshko
    Joe Calzaghe
    Bernard Hopkins
    Kelly Pavlik
     
  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PBF - nothing obvvious.

    Cotto - Leaky defence and gets stung on a regular basis.

    Cintron - It used ot be stamina and in experience, thats why i think he lost to Margo, not the best 'in fighter' in the world, prefers guys on the end of his punches.

    Hatton - Smothers his won work, cuts easy.

    Mosley - Has all the skills but lets boxer with the fundamentals nailed down beat him, Winky and Forrest doing nothing spectaculaly, but everything correctly.

    JMM - Gets drawn into a brawl, when he can beat almost anyone on the outside.

    Pac - One dimensional, can be out boxed and can be hurt when hit on the chin.

    Diaz - I like him, he has potential to go far though not the style to travek through the divisions though, aggression and stamina work well, but this will let him down as he fights bigger men as he doesnt have a great punch.

    R Marquez - Technically sound, rarely makes mistakes, maybe he fights when he should box and box when he should fight...

    klitschko - Has a weak chin...and he knows it.

    Calzaghe - gets caught by right hands, doesnt has one punch KO power, sufferes from injury.

    Hopkins - Is old, doesnt have a workrate and doesnt have good stamina.

    Pavlik - A pucnher with a chin could stop him as could a boxer with a chin, the question is does anybody around him have both?!
     
  3. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    very good assessment.
     
  4. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather-lacks power in higher weight classes and much like hopkins doesnt let his hands go. Because of that, fighters can steel rounds from him much like DLH did.
     
  5. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    nice post jc, seems like the calzaghe avatars are the latest hahaha
     
  6. Iceveins

    Iceveins Puglistic Linguistics Full Member

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    I'll take a few...

    PBF - One punch at a time, periods of inactivity
    Miguel Cotto - Chin
    Kermit Cintron - Mentality, wide punches, crying like a woman
    Ricky Hatton - Excessive clinching, mugging and wrestling
    Vladimir Klitshko - Chin, stamina, ring intelligence
    Joe Calzaghe - Not much to be honest...guy has technical flaws and may not look stylish but he's a fighting machine
    Bernard Hopkins - Lack of activity, lack of jab
     
  7. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    great post!!!
     
  8. Iceveins

    Iceveins Puglistic Linguistics Full Member

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    Come on man, you're making a few too many excuses for Vlad. When I say ring intelligence understand that is a broad term...In Vlad's case it his lack of survival skills or ability to weather a storm which I deem to be a lack of ring intelligence. I also consider the ability to fight when tired to be ring intelligence because many fighters do it, takes a bit of acting and mental craft. When Vlad is tired he looks like he's ready to spontaneously combust and his mouth is wide open enough to catch a passing pteradactyl.

    He was very robotic against Sanders, his adaptability is lacking, no ifs ands or buts. I was live for the Peter fight and noticed he still seemed very unsure of how to deal with someone who can hurt him. Ring intelligence comprises of craftiness and the ability to compensate for assetts you may be lacking at that very moment.
     
  9. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlads chin is extremely weak, heres some stats, Wlads been TKO'd 3 times, floored 11 times, by 6 different oppenents. Lamon Brewster hurt him 2 times in the match, In the 3rd round Brewster made Wlads legs buckle from a jab, which made Roy Jones to make fun of his chin, and claimed that he wouldnt get in the ring with me, with a chin like that. Wlad also was rocked and hurt against Peter from partially blocked overhand rights, he also had to clinch over 95 times that fight just to stay on his feet.

    I know your a huge Wlad fan, but everyone knows Wlads chin is glass, he's proved that enough throughout his career.
     
  10. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Rest of the post is sound.

    That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Calzaghe is the most multi dimentional boxers ever, he can litterally do everything: box from the outside, fight on the inside, swarm fighters, rough house.

    He can adapt in the middle of the fight too.
     
  11. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man you guys are way too hard on Floyds nuts if you can't see the obvious weakness of his brittle hands. it made him look like **** against Baldomir, almost cost him the hernandez fight, hell the only official KD of his career came when he took a knee due to hand pain. Imagine him breaking a hand and then trying to run from an elite fighter like he was forced to do against Baldomir.
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont know if your talking about me when you reffered to some posters having low IQ's and what not, I tried to provide the stats needed to proof Wlads chin is weak, but I obviously cant convince everyone.

    I got nothing against you as a Wlad fan, I know I have had to defend one of my favorite fighters a time or two myself. I just want to point out to you if you watch the the 3rd round of the Brewster fight, you will see Wlad get rocked pretty bad by a stiff jab, leading to Ledderman to give him that round on his scorecard. I'm not a fan of Wlads, but I do feel is very good Heavyweight that has alot going for him skill wise, but his chin IMO is pretty bad.
     
  13. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Well I certainly don't class myself as an expert but you must be taking the **** here or you are pretty dumb or have never seen Calzaghe fight.
     
  14. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Well said :good
     
  15. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    If ever there was a thread to **** me off, this has to be it. Some people are so far off on their assessments it's scary. Amazing what we all see and don't see in a fighter, eh?

    I agree with jc's post on the first page, mostly. Also, he did it without bitchy comments towards the fighters.