Weakness of the following fighters:

PBF - Pressure fighters and tall guys with a good jab.

Miguel Cotto - Punchers. He eats boxers alive.

Kermit Cintron - World class pressure fighters, but he owns non-world class pressure fighters. And most of all good boxers.

Ricky Hatton - Slick counter punchers, with good movement. (a.k.a. stay the **** away from witter, he's just got the wrong style)

Mosley - Pressure fighters, better-bigger boxers then him. Tall guy's with a good jab and good movement.

JMM - don't know really either 1) he can fight so many ways that I don't think there is a style that gives him trouble (just better fighters) or 2) I haven't seen enough of him to have figured this out. One of the two.

PAcquiao - Boxers with size advantages, good speed, good foot workd and counter punching ability. He eats swarmers and punchers alive.

Juan Diaz - Big time punchers with speed. If Pac has the power to hurt him, Pac will **** him. In one year Khan will have what it takes to beat his ass.

Rafael Marquez - Counter punchers. And volume punching left hookers.

Vladimir Klitshko - Other guys with size and speed.

Joe Calzaghe - ****ed if I know.

Bernard Hopkins - Speedy energetic skilled boxers.

Kelly Pavlik - Slick boxers, with good lateral movement and heavy hands.

 

Floyd has no problems wat so ever with pressure fighters. He actually fights better when put up against pressure fighters. Everything else sounds good tho

 

PBF - Only knock on him is he didnt bring any power up with him

Miguel Cotto - Chin is suspect as well as defense, Can be hit with uppercuts easily.

Kermit Cintron - No heart, No infighting skills, and is mentally weak. Also doesnt have a plan B when Plan A (Knock out) doesnt work.

Ricky Hatton - Holds way too much, Boxing skills are average at best, Doesnt have a jab, Defense is horrible, and Chin isnt the greatest. He's ****ED if and when he can't make 140 anymore.

Mosley - Can be lured into a brawl, Is easily hit with right hands.

JMM - Another fighter that can be lured into a brawl when he doesn't have to brawl.

PAcquiao - Lacks boxing skills and only looks for the KO.

Juan Diaz - Lacks power but fights like a power puncher. Will defintely get a wakeup call when he moves up in weight and fights bigger and stronger fighters.

Rafael Marquez - Great skills but sometimes holds back and gets lacksidasical

Vladimir Klitshko - Chin is very suspect and he holds way too much.

Joe Calzaghe - Throws way too many wild punches and sometimes throws punches without even looking at his opponent. Is open to be countered all the time because he throws wild punches from weird angles. Gets hit with right hands way too often.

Bernard Hopkins - Is old and past it. Relys on dirty tactics. Only throws one punch at a time and can be easily outworked. Power has dropped dramatically so if he's not winning rounds he's in alot of trouble cause chances are good that he's not KOing anyone.

Kelly Pavlik - Flat footed and defense isn't very good. Gets hit way too easily and if this continues he won't have a very long career.

 

I will tell you what Mayweather's weakness is.

He is a one shot type of guys which would get him in trouble with a Mosley who can throw combinations all fight long.
He can not deal with a guy who has a good jab and good stamina. That means in his weight class he has to fear Cotto and Vernon Forrest at 154. Forrest has a great jab and endurance. Cotto has a very good jab and underrated boxing ability.
Those three guys would give PBF hell.
As far as the other ones listed i think everyone covered them.

People PBF is not unbeatable. He is just untested at 147. 140 he would be unbeatable. Not 147 and up.

 

I think its more that he's forced to fight better. What the HBO guys meant when they were saying "Ricky brought the best outta Floyd" wasn't that Ricky was some sitting duck that Floyd could toy with and use to show everyone how good he is. They were saying that Ricky was challenging him to a point where he had to up his game. Floyd is such a defense first fighter that if you let him he will pot shot the whole fight and only do enough to win the rounds. Thus many of his best wins have come against the guys that challenged him the most. I personally believe that a side from someone who has physical gift (a.k.a. size) that Floyd simply can't match the Castillo/Hatton model is the one to beat Floyd it just has to be implemented by the right guy. Granted it would take one hell of a "right guy" to do it.

I stand by my analysis. It is the rock-paper-scizors of boxing. Boxer beats the puncher, puncher beats the brawler, brawler beats the boxer. Boxers aren't going to Beat Floyd. Cause he's the best there is. Punchers aren't going to beat Floyd cause they take too long to load up on shots. They get picked a part and hit nothing but air. On a level playing feild the only style that has a chance against Floyd is a guy that can smother his movement and throw enough quick shots that he can't counter them all. And if you want the proof score the two Castillo fights (honestly) a couple of times. Both were pretty close. Most thought Floyd got beat in the first fight and won the second. I had it 0-1-1 for Castillo. I don't want to bring back the old "Floyd is a fraude, he lost to Castillo" arguement, so you Floyd boys out there can just chill. The point is win or lose he was tested.

 

Mayweather's weakness are is hurt hands

 

cotto - can be very patient in fights, and does get tagged
cintron - stamina?
hatton - cuts
mosley - gets caught up in fights 2 much
jmm - fights 2 much
pacman - can be outboxed if you dont crumble from his punches (jmm 1st time after the 3 knockdowns and morales 1st time)
juan diaz - despite workrate not a big puncher
rafa- fights 2 much
klitschko- chinny
joe- gets caught up and leaves himself open
bhop- 1 paced
pavlik-could get hurt by big punchers

 

I think people always forget about how well Zab did against Floyd first half of their fight. Zab then just stopped throwing and threw everything out the window but he hit Floyd with some beautiful clean hard shots and showed that you can outbox Floyd if you can match Floyd's focus with your own. Countering his punch with perfect timing. Floyd might catch onto this like in Zab fight and change tactics. Zap had no plan B. The fighter to beat Floyd will be like Zab but with a cool head that could adapt.

 

not very athletic, slow
DLH stamina and inactivity age
PBF effective pressure from someone with KO power

 

Pacamn - leaves himself open for every punch in the textbook. needs to tighten his defence and use the right hand more

PAcquiao - Boxers with size advantages, good speed, good foot workd and counter punching ability. He eats swarmers and punchers alive.


I agree with this 2 post about PAC... I cant understand why some still see him as a 1 dimensional fighter.. and for the weak chin and as for his 2 KO's from body shots, one was when he fought in thailand wherein he lost his belt in the scales. his team allowed him to fight even after going through a brutal/ extreme ways to drop weight, no food,water, he was forced to throw up and they even cut his hair, etc.... he was basically exhausted when he stepped in the ring. for his 1st ko lost he was just a kid by then and fighting a grown man... shame on his management really.

 

Yeah you might be right. Floyd can be out boxed by a better boxer. One that can "match his focus" as you put it. But to me thats like saying fighter A will be beat by fighter B, so long as fighter B does what fighter A does only better. The problem (for the purpose of this thread) is that arguement could be applied to any fighter out there. It is more of a fact then a weakness.

 

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i just don agree with your assessment on PBF....
and with cotto i just wanna ask... i dont remember him having trouble with punchers... refresh my memory...

 

Good first post.:good

 

thanks... but actually this is my 2nd account cause for some reason i cant log on to my other account...

 

Sure he has. Torres is the best example. And its not so much that he's had problems with them its just that his style of fighting leaves him open to a guy that loads up on his shots. He just doesn't do enough to get out of the way. But he's been making adjustments and has developed a good jab to keep these guys off balance. I'd guess he beats Cintron farely easily. But I'd be a nervous fan if that fight ever happened.