Weaknesses of the Philly Shell Defense that Floyd and Broner use?

Thats very cool man. You should consider being a trainer or a cornerman for a fighter. You sound like you could make a gameplan and have a fighter execute it.

 

Alright then, if you disagree with something then spit it out. I posted numerous examples from specific fights.

 

There is a lot more to it. i'm just doing quick replies

 

Again like most of your analysis. You take one example and you made it concrete. Not about angles, footing and the blah blahs.

Just bc you are in one posture doesn't mean you can't move your legs and recreate different angles. And the other stuff your wrote, i honestly have no idea you are trying to say. The **** is not rocket science but as always you make it sound like it.

A actual smart fighter who uses philly will switch up, unless they are an idiot.

 

You box?? Are you an amateur? Thats very cool, I'm thinking of trying out the amateurs and seeing where it goes from there.

 

well he didn't just give one example, he gave numerous.

 

why is it called the philly shell anyways??

 

I used to for 18 months. I put in 6 months of work on that style alone and learned the hard way. I still practice my craft almost everyday. Our gym was shut down + shaddy coach.

 

Before i was a boxer, i did alot of self defense martial arts. That gave me the ability along with my fathers vast boxing knowledge to keep on top of strategy. Something i think is seriously under used in training camps simply because its used more to get in shape. But yes i do think about the training aspect alot. Its hard to let the sport go u know wat i mean, lol.

 

Hey if you think it will work, please try it with a live body. Calculating the meaning of life solving equations.

 

I know wat u mean. Im not big on huge replies but i did it this once. I practiced the philly shell more or less like u described and to really get through it, it helps to know how to do it too.

 

which is another why you see so many lead rights from Floyd. Floyd's right is already in position to punch.

I like to use my left uppercut and uppercut/hook off my left when i am in philly because the position is already set for uppercut, and hook comes from an odd angle that is hard for your opponents to see (coming from below).

Most philly fighters like to leap with their left hooks and lead right pot shots. Jabs is basically useless in that style.

 

Why do you think it's called the philly shell?

 

i do not know nor care.

 

This question is about weaknesses that assist in CRACKING the Philly shell not the weaknesses of it as a style. If you can't jab in the Philly Shell you just ain't that fast, don't have above average feints/timing, or your competition is too good. But to go with your argument, so the user of the shell can't jab as effectively. How is that the answer to cracking it?

The guy who uses the PS is a primarily counter punching fighter in a counter punching situation. Being a counter puncher does not necessarily mean you aren't effective offensively. Resorting to a regular guard just means you are dominating (or the other guy is too fast to counter).

It is easy to move forward with a Philly Shell. You place your weight evenly on both feet and shuffle/slide into the edge of range of the guy. You are a counter puncher so you should be expecting to (up) jab, rock back, feed him some BS like an elbow, bend at the waist giving false targets, etc... as soon as you get in range.

The fact is both guys can't counter punch. One guy will be the aggressor or they will be staring at each other all night. If you are chasing him you aren't countering which implies you aren't using the shell. There is no need. You are dominant.