Weight gains + questions

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  1. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    So I'm starting my immense weight/strength gain phase tomorrow and I need some tips.

    So far:
    -aiming at 3000 or more calories per day
    -1g of protein per lbs of body weight
    -Eating 5 times per day plus snacks so maybe 7-9 meals a day
    -Not eating junk


    I have a few questions though,

    -When exactly are you supposed to eat carbs for energy yet minimizing fat gain?

    -How far is my bf% likely to rise during 2 months that I will be doing this?

    -Is there any way I can estimate my current bf%?

    Thanks!

    p.s. I already have a good weight lifting and cardio routine.
     
  2. MrSmall

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    You don't need carbs for energy, eat carbs anything up to 4 hours past your workout.
    Eat more fats, nuts, eggs, and more fruit, for your pre-workout energy. See how you'll be MORE energetic and LOSE fat. If you eat more fats, your body will not hold as much fat as it currently does.

    Depends how, when, what you eat.

    No. Don't think in bf%, look in the mirror. Take a before and after pic.

    Lets see the routine.
     
  3. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You want to gain size, you are going to gain some fat during a bulk.

    Timing of your carbs should depend on when you work out. IF you have time work out in the AM you are lucky.. Really minimize your carbs after lunch. Dinner should be lean meats and loads of salad.. Have some carbs for breakfast to supply your workout with energy, light whey shake.. So, like a bowl of cheerios and a whey shake, or just make the shake and add it to a cereal instead of milk.

    Bust ass at the gym.. Don't forget to finish up with 30-40 minutes on a treadmill, something that will get your heartrate around 130, but not much more or you are just eating muscle away.. 130 is prime for burning fat, or in this case minimizing fat gain.

    Have a shake ready right after you finish your workout, Whey shake with carbs, like a recovery drink, or whey with waxy maize starch and a multivitamin (I mean right after workout). If you have a whey shake, you cant really absorb any more than 20-30 grams per sitting since the stuff goes right into your system.

    Half an hour to an hour later, eat a good breakfast (2nd breakfast). 5 whole eggs (omega 3 ones), some cartoned egg whites (equal of 2 eggs), a good complex carb of your choice, I ****ing love rice and over easy egg yolks. Can sub some of this with a good lean steak, but eggs are pretty much the top protein.

    Between breakfast and lunch, have a casein or egg protein shake, add some bran, or flax meal, a little fruit IE banana, handfull of blueberries.

    Lunch.. Good lean protein source, good carb source, like a baked yam (medium sized, don't go nuts) Good salad, have some dressing olive oil and vinegar based.. No lard assy ranch or bleu cheese.

    Inbetween dinner and lunch, have another shake. Mix in something like a good fruit, blueberry, banana, flax meal if you wish. I would do one flax meal per day, and one bran or other form of fibre. Have some almonds, or nuts of your choice

    Dinner.. Have a fatty meat if you want, like salmon or tuna as your protein. Big fat assed salad. Same thing, avoid sat fats, but go ahead with olive oil and vinegar versions of dressing.

    Time your dinner so you don't eat it past 8 pm, or around 3 hours before you sleep.. Finish off with a CASEIN shake before you go to bed. Dont forget your multivitamins.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fat burning zone is bull****. If you want to maintain muscle and lose fat do HIIT training.
     
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  6. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    Tuesday
    Horizontal push-pull
    Bench & Row 4x6
    Squat 5x5
    Chin-ups 4x6

    Thursday
    Vertical Push-pull
    Military press and lat pull down 4x6
    Deadlift 4x6
    Chin-ups 4x6

    Saturday
    Powerclean 5x3
    Incline Bench 4x6
    Wrists 3x10
    Chin-ups 4x6

    For cardio I do HIIT training twice a week plus running at football practice.
     
  7. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on the person. Hiit training can also break you after a hard workout. If I tried doing HIIT training after heavy squats I'd probably **** up my joints worse than they already are. Also, if you can do HIIT training after you performed a heavy lift, your not lifting hard enough.
     
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  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where did I say anything about doing HIIT after weight training?
     
  12. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    That's a really good article. I read all of that in one sitting. Thank you :good
     
  13. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    Is my routine intense enough to stimulate muscle growth?

    I tried to incorporate all compound lifts without having to spend more than an hour in the gym. I'm not sure if I should add another exercise else to Saturday like front squats or something.
     
  14. Koa

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    My bad.. I just don't see how I could fit HIIT training like sprints in when I'm trying to gain. If I just did a pyamid set of leg presses, hack squats, squats, leg extensions, and leg curls.. (Yeah, thats my leg day, I do calves the other day) I cant sprint.. I need two solid days off, many times 3..
     
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