I don't think he's saying they're pointless, because they're obviously better than nothing. He means that if it's a choice between isolation stuff and compound stuff, then the latter is better. Unless, like you said, you're correcting a muscle imbalance.
Thats because theres too many clowns in this forum that havent got a freaking clue about what there talking about.
at one point I trained with a BB style workout, I had taken some time off boxing, and began to workout for size. I continued to train boxing bud it was not my focus. When I came back to focus on boxing I had gained a signifigant amount of muscle, but lost some coordination, speed and overall skill, that I had to gain back. It takes a lot of time to teach your body how to use muscle effectively, since an increase in mass will affect your biomechanics, you have to "retrain" your technique. It is my experience that isolation excercises provided little net gain, and great net loss in boxing ability.
Correct but only if someones looking for advice. Advise that is incorrect is simply stupid advice. Therefore take most of the opinions here with a pinch of salt.
It does but functional muscle is not the same as muscle mass and vice versa. Naturally its better to have muscle mass than fats but untrained muscle that is not sport specific is inherently useless. I assure you if you had continued to do a bodybuilding regime and boxed as the same time you would have seen an increase in performance when boxing. BUT both activities negate each other as one is anaerobic and one is aerobic. Thus building mass would be much harder, BUT the mass you would build at the same time would be par excellent with very little excess weight water of fats. Muscle memory never takes that much longer to retain. Once the neural pathways are built they only degenerate with age but can easily be rebuilt in a matter of weeks with a sound training regime and dedication.
Well put. Holyfield is a good example of BB and Boxing. I have a hard time serving two masters myself. My biggest issue with BB workout was that I developed muscular inbalances. My legs for instance grow like weeds in the quad but my hams wouldnt keep up, same with arms and shoulders. Most of the BB workouts I did exagerated these inbalances which must be corrected. I can see how boxing at the same time could remedy this though.
Most naturally favor the easiest body part and favourite workout.Mine tends to be tri`s and back. But its always best to work all muscle groups in equal measure. If you dont you risk injury if you compete in almost any sport because of muscular imbalances. I tend to do more compound excercises rather than focus on particular muscles as the results are far better for overall conditioning and im rarely ever out of shape and thats without even breaking a sweat. If i do need to augment my regime i can still do so with relative ease. A few weeks ago i was benching 300lbs and surprised my own self with how well my muscle memory was as i rarely ever bench that heavy and see no need to do so.
I don't know. The point of this thread is that the deadlift will work your forearm, along with the majority of the rest of the muscles in your entire body. Whereas forearm curls will just work your forearms. Deadlift KO1 forearm curls, is basically what I'm saying.
This viru§™ guy don't know what the hell he is typing about, if you are going to spew that tripe at least type a disclaimer or something let the people know that it's just your opinion and might not be factual reasonable or feasible to others. As to isolation exercises being "pointless" maybe for you it is but then again everyone is different and come from different genetic makes etc. Isolation exercises are great and important for many reasons, in the case of the forearms. The above exercises although they do call upon the forearm muscle groups, they do so in concert with other muscle groups and therefore are assisting. To totally target and hit the forearm muscles a variety of isolation exercises are best.