Weight-Training:- A routine for gaining size.

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  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Personally, I'd do the same layout as 5/3/1. Heavy core lift to start the workout (Squat, deadlift, bench press or overhead press) then do 2-4 accesory lifts with higher reps.
     
  2. SupraTT24

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    In the same workout with the same lifts you mentioned?
     
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    SupraTT24 Heart Of A Champion Full Member

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    It's a good article. Although the guy's attitude is poor, his 5-3-1 I can agree with for strength. BUT the person posting wants an increase in size first as he has aparently been working on strength and will do so after as well (kinda confused about all that) but anywho the low reps with the heavy weights will give optimal limit strength gains but for maximum muscular hypertrophy which is what i'm getting out of what he asked, more than 6 reps is required and doesn't exactly need to be super heavy
     
  5. viru§™

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    The routine set out as it is there has heavy over head press followed by 5x10 dips then 5x10 chin-ups, plenty of volume for size.

    The e-book has 4 or 5 ways of laying out the program depending on if you just want strength or strength and size.
     
  6. SupraTT24

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    I guess i haven't seen an integrated program like that. I may have to read up on that a bit more.
     
  7. Rakim

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    That means you should only do one area of your body per workout. Otherwise your reps will be straying from the correct amount to build size, to the amount needed for endurance.

    :huh
     
  8. viru§™

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    Two ways you could do that -

    Instead of 6x6 on both flat and incline do 3x6 flat then 3x6 incline.

    Second way is like Westside For Skinny *******s. Build up the weight till you can only do 3 reps on flat or incline then do 2 sets to failure on the other.
     
  9. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Cheers mate, I'll give both of those methods a go :good
     
  10. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    I'm going back to my previous routine I think, I just don't feel like I've done **** all if I leave the gym after doing 30-40 reps on my chest.


    Warm-up = 5 reps on 60kg.

    1 attempt on 95% of 1rm = 1 rep on 95kg.

    5x6 on 72.5kg.

    That's 36 reps.
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've heard this said alot. So you expect your chest to be killing you when you leave the gym or be huge from the pump? If you're progressing in either weight, reps or sets every workout it doesn't matter if you're doing 15 reps or 35, thats plenty.

    How many reps do you expect to do for your chest?

    Warm-up should be 3-6 sets, building up the weight.

    Why?

    Nothing wrong with that.
     
  12. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    I prefer it when I wake up and ache the next day, at least I know I've done something.

    I don't know. I used to do a warm-up, a max attempt, something like 5x5 on flat bench, then maybe 3x10 military press/incline, and then cable flyes or dips for a few sets.


    3-6 sets? Why don't they count towards the total amount?

    I do one attempt at a decent weight to stop the shock next time I try my 1rm.
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ever heard of "Stimulate, don't annihilate"? Aching means nothing once you've been training for a while. I don't ache anymore but I'm constantly progressing in the weight I'm lifting and getting bigger and stronger. As long as I'm progressing I don't care if I ache.

    I do 1 rep max every few months if at all. No need for it regularly. You need to find a premade routine that isn't a body part split.

    Warm-up sets don't count towards work sets, no.

    Like I said above you should do 1 rep max rarely.
     
  14. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Ok, thanks.

    Could you help me out with a routine? Within the next month I'll hopefully be back to squatting and deadlifting (bad back, atm), so I need a routine spread across three separate days.

    I'd like to include, Bench, Military press, Pullups, Squats, Deads, Rows (one-armed dumbell, or seated cable), maybe some clean and jerks, and I'd like to conclude each of the sessions with one of these three isolation exercises:- Shrugs, calf raises, ab work.

    Ideally, I'd like the routine to be adaptable to either strength or size, just by varying the amount of sets and reps.


    Any help would be much appreciated.
     
  15. Dan

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    http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/

    comes with ebook+spreadsheet
    easy to follow and shows great gains