Weight training for boxing.

I didn't read this before.
If in a year you have put on 30lbs or so (2-3 weight classes), why would you not expect to be up against bigger guys as you have become a bigger guy yourself?
You won't become a better boxer skill wise, why would you? You need to assess and examine whether your strength training is complementing your sport and improving you as an athlete in the way you want.
If you meant that he shouldn't only lift weights and expect to come back a better boxer, then agreed, he won't. Is that what you did?

 

I made a conscious decision to "retire" from boxing, wanted to stay busy in the gym, so went for weight lifting.

Then just do boxing training more intensively. It's not like boxing training will make turn you into a marathon runner.

It's simple really. Boxing training will make you get better at boxing, lifting weights will make you become better at lifting weights. Of course you can combine the two, but the extensive program I saw on the first page was made up only off lifting exercises.

Train like a beast, become a beast. Weights can help but you don't need an extensive program exclusively consisting of weight lifting to become a good boxer.

 

All I'm saying is don't take weight lifting too far if your main interest is still competitive boxing (which is not the case for me). Watch Byrd or Adamek at HW - even if you've significantly put on muscle, your opponents will still be naturally bigger and more powerful.

 

The plan was to get stronger, as he wouldn't be boxing for a little while, that's why no boxing was included. It would be silly to think one would automatically lead to an increase in the other!

Fair points all round Chris. However to put on 20-30lbs of muscle would take quite a lot of effort and time dedicated to certain activities, and complete neglect of others, it isn't overnight or even over a few months.

 

OP very first post.

He can still shadow box and whatever else on the days between but if he wants to lift weights because he isn't currently involved in boxing I don't see the problem.

 

Body building programmes should be thrown out of the window. As was mentioned, you don't want to be bulking up as such. Taking it to extremes for a moment; I could theoretically put on 30lbs in muscle, but I'd be a muscular small man fighting blokes with naturally bigger hands, wrists, ankles, skulls... These things count. I'd much rather utilise my own advantages (height, reach).

Strength training... That's different. Some (not extensive) strength training is obviously going to be beneficial. You'll put on enough muscle to look healthy and strong but remain comfortable in a weight division.

I think the best boxing training is mostly traditional but stepped up a gear. Substitute long runs for short runs, twenty minutes skipping for five, and lacklustre heavy bag work for intense drills.

And of course lots of skill work.

 

Yeah I'd only skipped over the first pages, my bad. Still a bit pissed off about last night's fight I guess. :twisted:

By the way, to the thread starter being 6'1 and 146lbs at 16 years of age is perfectly normal. Between ages 16-25 you'll gain significant strength, even if you only sit on the couch watching Big Brother all day. Expect to be around 175lbs in your 20's with normal boxing training. And I'm talking 175lbs RIPPED!

 

dont think anyone said you didn't, not sure where this thread is heading off into the classic irrelevant weights vs boxing for boxing improvement

 

Don't know mate, didn't read much of this, I'll have a look tomorrow.

 

There's nothing wrong with your knees going beyond your toes. The idea it puts too much stress on your knees or ankles or whatever BS you've been told is unproven.

Does it look like this guy has knee/ankle problems? -

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It depends. For strength around 1-3 minutes between sets, sometimes 5 minutes. If you're doing strength training, taking 30 seconds rest and still putting the weight up for your next set, you're not using anywhere near enough weight.

 

don't worry about the knees over toes as long as they aren't caving inwards a lot or anything like that. keep the weight on your heels, chest up, back arched.
Take longer than 30 seconds rest when you are training for strength, you aren't doing it to get fitter.
Stomach, eat a little more, and a little more often, and drink water regularly, and do some cardio. Bloat is mostly either eating too much and too much salt, or eating too LITTLE and drinking too little, in my experience. When the rest of you is lean and strong, your midsection will be too, be patient.

 

So basically you're saying he's either eating too much or too little? :yep

I get what you're saying, though. Train hard, eat (semi) right stuff, and you'll get a flat stomach. Especially if you're young.