Weight Training Over Rated?

1) Stretch before and after every workout
2) Keep working on your tecnique, speed, etc in boxing

And you will be ok. You stretch to keep your muscles long, and flexible (so your not a musclebound meathead), and you keep working tecnique and speed so you can keep that as well.
I've seriously gained 30 pounds (pretty much all muscle) in like 6 years, and I haven't really lost any speed, and if I did, I made up for it with better tecnique. I lift a lot, but also box 3 times a week, swim twice a week, run twice a week, shadow box daily, stretch before/ after every workout. I'm 5'7, 185, and I don't look like I can't whipe my butt....I look like a guy people don't want to fight.
That's what amazes me about these small boxers cuz if you weigh 135, and going up against a guy 230 that grabs him (because he didn't know he could box) then it's like what happens then? BUT if your a big guy that can box too, and have the strength to wrestle somebody...If Need be, then nobody messes with you usually. Muscles not a bad thing definitely if you actually know how to build it, and know how to use it. Most people don't know how is the problem....

 

Weight training cannot be overated.

Hopkins weight trained to get to light heavy and keep his strength up there.

Holyfield trained with Lee Haney to get up to Heavyweight .

Roy Jones lifts weights.

The right type of training which doesnt affect your speed and doesnt shorten muscles obviously works.

Also key excercises like dips , chins , squats and press up are also a must , I would also include a strong neck excercise, such as weighted neck raises.

 

training in general is overrated..

 

The term 'functional' strength is a misnomer in itself. All strength is functional for something - even if it is only for pressing machine weights.
The whole point of strength training is to improve the way in which your muscles work together ie. compound lifts. what you are referring to in terms of throwing people around is more skill than strength.

 

Pretty much any discussion that seeks to rationalise street fighting and boxing is ******ed.

Just like boxing, wrestling isn't about strength, it's about technique.
Thinking otherwise will get you completely ass raped by a wrestler who is half your size.

 

1) Dumbell flys shouldn't make your hooks stronger unless you're punching with improper technique - in which case learning to punch will improve your power by a greater amount.

2) The whole workout advice part is ******ed, train the motion not the muscle? You know that with a strength routine you're training the nervous system and the muscles in whatever you do right? Avoiding increased muscle mass has more to do with low volume (reps/sets), high weight and calorie control.

 

Yes, but if you get a wrestler who is a similar skill level, but is significantly stronger, you're still going to get your arse raped. The same can be said for boxing.

 

That is both obvious and irrelevant to my original post.
The guy I quoted said that getting strong means you can wrestle in a street fight. I said that if the other guy knows how to wrestle you're still ****ed. The implication is that they were NOT of comparible skill.

 

Training with resistence is crucial- end discussion. Anyone who disagree's is a ******.

 

I prefer body weight training, also if you're going to lift any weights I would suggest squats. You're legs are what puts the power into your punches

 

What puts power in the punch, is where the Head is.

 

Stop picking out points where 'the power comes from'.

The power comes from your whole body, particularly your core. The other important thing is weight distribution in the punch, aka technique.

Scrap if that's what you mean by 'where the head is' then you're definitely not a ******, if that's not what you meant, then...

 

Sometimes I wish you'd just write a book with your wisdom in it rather than posting little proverbs every now and again sir :yep

Care to expand on that point?

 

If the Head isnt above the Coxxys, nothing in the Body works properly. Alinement is lost with the inner ear and big Toe balance is lost in the Hip area ,making the TFL less functional. Making psosas and Corr as you call it less, because of feel.

 

Beneficial, but not essential.

By the way, RJJ barely did weightlifting and wasn't very into it when he did.