Weight Training Over Rated?

Their sense of 'feel' is superior, so when they are moved off balance their ability to reposition themselves without thinking about it is greater. They are always feeling the best position, the positon with the greatest balance.

 

You are creating a false distinction between balance and skill. Part of the skill in throwing a punch is remaining on balance throughout, using (you guessed it) technique.

The position of the head is also not the sole variable for balance, it is the position of your head relative to the position of the hips, which move laterally to counteract the movement of your head in movements such as slipping.

As for pushing guys around the ring.. you said this:

How can you not agree that this is SKILL? This is pretty much what is taught in any wrestling or judo class.

 

Haha, finally somthing we can judge your boxing knowledge upon..
Yes power in a punch is about weight distribution its all about weight distribution which is balance which is linked to posture like i said all along.. so you say in one sentence ''punching power is about momentum AND weight distribution'' but then imply later in the same sentence that technique improves the weight distribution but still manage to imply that it doesnt improve power?.. yeh you sound like a good lawyer. contradicting yourself in the same sentance.. lol.

Like i explained earlier using bad technique and a lack of knowledge on how to use your body and joints as to their full potential causes muscles to fight against joints wasteing energy and slowing you down, causing injuries etc, etc. Next, not knowing the trigger muscles means you will most likely have the antagonist muscles fighting against you at some point (aswell as those joints because of your shitty form) in the movement and guess what the stronger the muscles are the more of a fight youve got as the momentum youve built up gets slowed down by the antagonists. so yes they can work against you given bad technique.

To answer your question good posture will stop you from getting hit because you will be very mobile as you wont be leaning aswell as being strong this is another benefit of posture which i explained earlier... dropping the chin doesnt stop you from getting hit at all and if you think it does i want to see a video demonstration of this, show me what works best, moving your head out of the way using your feet or dropping your chin, have a friend throw the punch at you, might wanna take your shirt and tie off first though, or better yet, you stick to your profession of arguing in court and boxercise classes, and we'll stick to our profession ofboxing :yep

 

Where did I contradict myself? I said this:

I clearly stated that technique is one of the elements in punching power, as it provides weight distribution which, coincidentally is how you put your weight into a punch. Your reading comprehension fails you.

I am a trainee, once again your reading comprehenseion fails you. I am also an amatuer boxer and judoka, and am planning to go into amatuer wrestling soon. My choice of profession has no bearing on your inability to read.

 

Finally a decent poster who understands punch biomechanics and isnt just making it up.. well worded lefty, lol if you dont believe what we are saying go to a mirror and shadow box, then on the second round as your main goal forget everything else and keep the main task on supporting your head, dont allow it to move at all when throwing punches, then come back and tell me you didnt instantly improve just from what ive told you..

Try it doing a straight right and moving straight back and then to the right after the punch, do this how you usually would and tape it. and then try it while concentrating on supporting the head during the right hand and the movements back and to the right, watch the video and come back and tell me which your not faster. you'll find your able to move off from the right hand much quicker throwing like this, in a bigger variety of directions why? because your on balance while throwing it for the first time ever...

 

If your head isn't moving then your shoulders aren't moving, there will be no power in your punches.

And don't try to feed me any **** about how your body moves but your head doesn't, if your head is no longer occupying the same point in space then it has moved.

 

This confuses me. I like most of your posts Onepunch but you can't move your shoulders without moving your head? If that is true you need to really work on your flexibility.

 

If you move your shoulders as you punch and continue looking in the same direction, your head has turned (moved)

If you punch and turn your shoulders without turning your head, your head has moved because it no longer occupies the same point in space.

WHEN YOU MOVE.. YOUR HEAD MOVES.

 

lefty is saying that if you slip something you move your shoulders and because your moving your shoulders your head goes with it you dont actually consciously move your head it just moves as one with your body.

one punch is saying that if you move your shoulders to slip a punch your head is going to naturally go with it so you cant slip a punch with out moving your head.

really your both making the same point i think. though im probly completely wrong as allways.

 

What moves the Head is the feet and knees, the Hips independently cant move, just a point

 

Pretty much, I just don't agree with the use of terminology that has taken hold here where guys are regularly saying 'you don't move your head during head-movement'.

I don't think it's necessary because nobody in their right mind would think simply bending at the neck constitutes head-movement for the purposes of boxing.

 

Yeah and what makes you inhale is a pressure gradient created by the expansion of your chest cavity.

Shall we keep throwing about irrelevant facts?

 

Its relevant to head movement.

 

No, what you said is:

This has already been discussed in greater detail and adds nothing that has not already been said.

At this point in the discussion it is irrelevant

 

Oh dear sorry :rofl