weight training?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by kirky c, Jan 8, 2011.


  1. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can an isometric hold be dangerous? The muscle isn't shortening or lengthening...?

    Why would proprioceptive training not be appropriate in the first month? Everyone including my granny should be doing it if they can stand up and want to avoid injuries.

    I very rarely disagree with anything Virus says, one of the few people around here worth listening to who knows what they're talking about.

    I don't understand your training ideas, did you get them from somewhere or is this just stuff you're making up?
     
  2. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    These are Olympic lifters there sport requires them to lift huge weights. I am not 100% clear on the sport but is it one rep of who ever can do the biggest weight and they progressively move up until one can no longer lift?

    Boxers don't need to lift like an Olympian because their trade requires a completely different set of physical attributes.
     
  3. Boxinglad123

    Boxinglad123 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since when? Lifting heavy weights with speed (like olympic lifters) is the way to gain speed through lifting.

    Just because you may have seen boxers who lift heavy weights who are slow and others who only lift light weights who are fast means nothing. Some guys are faster than others, and some guys go to extremes in the lifting and then lose focus on the technique.

    Lifting lighter weights doesn't even build strength, it builds endurance.
     
  4. kirky c

    kirky c white mike Full Member

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    right cheers lads that has helped. so to confirm the answer is keep away from weights for a few weeks, just work on body weight exercises then move on to weights starting with light weights with high reps. this way wont make me gain weight and lose speed but will help me gain strength, is this right?
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing to do with the sports. You're saying lifting heavy weights makes you slow. Olympic lifters completely disprove this theory of yours.
     
  6. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would you do a pushup explosively and to fatigue if you're not well trained or if you're injured? You can still do a slow controlled pushup and it's going to be far more beneficial/less detrimental than isolating your biceps or triceps.
     
  7. marciano22

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    Virus, introductionary training is important. You can't go high loads low reps without being properly trained beforehand.

    Brighton bomber ridiculed me how pushups are to tough etc. The point i am making is that no load is to tough, it's all relative to your strength.
     
  8. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll leave the training part to lefty, I don't know enough about training people with these type of injuries, but I can say a few things.

    1. Weight gain is down to diet. You can lift all the weights you want if your body doesn't have the material to build muscle it's impossible to build muscle.
    2. You get stronger by lifting pogressivly heavier loads. Eventually you'd have to start lifting weights or doing some extreme body weight exercises to get stronger.
    3. If you train to be fast you'll get faster. When you lift weight you should control the eccentric phase and be explosive on the concentric phase.
     
  9. marciano22

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    Slow controlled exercises can reduce your speed. On a machine he could fast and safe at the same time. But please note that this is an introductionary routine.
     
  10. viru§™

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    Obviously you have to know what you're doing form wise, but your body is physically capable of lifting very heavy weight from the beginning without going through a year of lifting pathetically light weights.
     
  11. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Different set of physical attributes? Speed, strength, power, drive through the legs and keeping in a weight class? Sounds pretty similar to what you want from a boxer wouldn't you say? Notice most olympic lifters aren't muscled up yet they are extremely powerful?
    Russian boxers are big on olympic lifting and they are some of the best boxers when it comes to power. Of course their technique is the main contributor to their power but still.
     
  12. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    It has everything to do with sport.
    A sprinter must be fast in a different way to a basketballer

    Olympic lifters are very fast at lifting but this is about boxing. A guy coming back from injury. Trying not to gain weight. Retain speed . Build stamina . Improve punching power.

    Its a different type of speed.
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you're too dense to understand what's being said.
     
  14. marciano22

    marciano22 Member Full Member

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    Who said anything about a year?

    I could probably run a marathon to save my life also but that does not mean it's sensible.
     
  15. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes obviously but we're talking about an injured/untrained person, you progress to more difficult explosive exercises when you can. There is no such thing as fast and safe on a machine, no athlete at any stage should be training on machines. Unless you are a bodybulider.