Weightlifting for Boxing - What to...

Think they mite do, but dont agree.

 

From what is said in replies, no, they don't get it.

 

Time will tell wont it.

 

How many powerlifters are boxing champions and how many boxing champions are great powerlifters.

Spar a round.

Do one set of 5 reps power cleans and compare that to doing one round of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6scmmaj_nY

Now, of the two, which one is more comparable to the physiological strain put on the body by one round of sparring?

Which one makes you feel most similar to how you felt after sparring one round?

Weight lifters who have never boxed compared to boxers who weight train are very easy to tell apart in this thread.

 

None.

This point is entirely irrelevant and to be blunt, dumb. You're comparing two sports that are completely different, not related in any way. Both have completely different goals and both have completely different training.

Why you've got this thing for power lifting I don't know.

I don't believe you read what dealt_with said, if you did you wouldn't ask this question.

Read above.

As are the guys that don't really know what they're talking about, basing everything they say on opinion and not actual knowledge and experience.

 

Pretty solid advice here.
Ill add to that. Get a good barbell coach even if its an online one.
Tyson fury has a recent video of him deadlifting around 550lbs with bad form.

 

Oh really? So in this video did Chris Algieri say he was increasing weight and decreasing reps while increasing rest? The short answer is NO HE DOES NOT. Guess what, in the early 90s when I was watching Tim Hallmark train Evander Holyfield, he wasn't lifting particularly heavy weights either, in fact he was doing circuits or complexes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqvCZlRVZpc

 

If you take weight training advice/techniques from professional boxers it's no wonder you have no idea what you're talking about.

"In the early 90s" is all I needed to read.

Apart from that, you're completely ignoring what you're being told about how to utilize weights for improving athleticism, key word "athleticism".

 

Yeah, those professional boxers, especially the ones who become world champions have no idea about how to condition themselves for boxing.:rofl

I wouldn't want to use weights to make my boxer more athletic. I use the weights for conditioning. For athleticism we're doing all types of bag work; double end bag, heavy bag, speed bag, pad work, impact shield work, line jumping, jumping rope ( although that's very much conditioning too ) impact shield punching, sparring, semi-sparring, shadow boxing and even some drills that the garden variety boxing fan who has never been in a boxing gym would not think of.

 

Conditioning for boxing and weight training are two different things. The sad thing is you just don't understand this.

Also, I really don't care what professional boxers have to say about their training. 99% of them are utterly clueless as to why they're doing what they're doing which makes what they think and say entirely pointless.

What's that saying.... I believe it's "ignorance is bliss".

Good for you. You're better off utilizing conditioning techniques that are aimed at boxing, though. Just a tip.

Which has nothing to do with utilizing weight training to improve athletic performance.

You haven't actually answered why a boxer is better off lifting light weights for high reps over aiming to improve overall power.

 

You are not doing yourself favors with this kind of posts.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOEQq3s0y4

Notice what muscles he uses, how much of a load he is carrying, how many reps he's doing

Notice the muscles this conditions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOEQq3s0y4 the amount of work done

 

I take it you posted the wrong videos...

 

:rofl
How many tennis players are boxing champions and how many boxing champions are great tennis players? What an idiotic thing to post.
Did you not read what I said? I'm saying that weight training for boxing SHOULDN'T be anything like a round of boxing. That would be redundant. The reason for weight training in any sport is to increase strength, power, and prevent injuries. If you're weight training to replicate the demands of a boxing round then you're achieving the opposite, you're basically a crossfit ****** at that point.

Powerlifters don't do power cleans fyi.
A power clean/clean pull develops speed and strength through the triple extension that is used when throwing a punch, you develop the neuromuscular capability and transfer it to your sporting movement. Obviously if you just perform power cleans instead of punching you're not going to improve anything, I think that's pretty obvious but apparently not for some here.

 

No I understand perfectly, that's why I can tell you that your treadmill is never going to have a place in the world of improving athletes physical capabilities. At best it will have a place in the rehab world, and good luck with that.
Football/Soccer and boxing are still very backwards and afraid of weightlifting so your best bet is to find an audience there.