Weightlifting for Boxing - What to...

I try to end my boxing workout with 1 round of shadowboxing with 5 lbs weights

 

I thought so .

 

Al can clean and press 150lbs. Bo can clean and press only 130lbs. Does this mean Al is in better fighting shape than Bo? Well, let's say we watch them train a little bit more. Al can only jump rope for 1 minute until he noticeably tires but Bo can jump rope at an intense rate for 4 minutes. Al hits the heavy bag really hard for 30 seconds but Bo hits the heavy bag solidly for a full 3 minutes. We also notice it takes Bo only a minute to recuperate well enough from his efforts while Al needs 3 minutes to recuperate. Sure, Al is stronger but is he in better fighting shape than Bo?

 

Was this BS meant to prove something? I can make up random **** to prove a point to.

Al lifts weights. He's stronger and faster than Tom who does not lift weights. Al also trains boxing very intensely and consistently as does Tom, but overall Al is by far the better athlete/boxer.

Obviously Al is better because he lifts weights.

 

:rofl
So much stupid. Some people aren't even worth talking to because they are so dense, you're one of those people.

 

When I throw a punch i don't contract my muscles for long periods of time, I fire my punch....relax....then explode just before impact. When you think about it, the time under tension for a punch is very low say <0.25 seconds, whereas time under tension for a weightlifting exercise, say bench press, will be much greater than the 0.25s. Therefore it would be quite hard to replicate your muscles firing at high speeds with heavy weights, yes i know that "lifting heavy weights builds your muscles stronger and hence increase there speed". What does it also do? Damages your muscle cells which forces them to grow back stronger. If your training say a 5 day week and you lift weights on Tuesday's and Thursday's then are you ever going to have a sparring session with fresh muscles? maybe on monday, this gives you one fresh sparring session a week. Now imagine if you had 2 fresh sparring sessions each week, your skill level will be vastly improved in one week. However if you are not a competing fighter then by all means lift any time you want because you don't need to progress your skill level as fanatically, as for competing fighters i would suggest lifting weights when not preparing for any particular fight so it doesn't affect your "skill sessions". Once again my $0.02, im sure there will be someone to tell me im wrong (maybe i am) but I'm just an opinionated kid who loves debate

 

tldr

 

You must mean ya love watching debates. Only 2 posts since September LOL.

Weightlifting for boxing is such a case by case topic. Some body types will handle it better than others. Personally I couldnt even imagine training for combat sports without some amount of strengthening exercises for my neck, core and legs especially.

 

Good for you. I wasted my time reading his post... he's one of those "I've read an article on building muscle so now I know what I'm talking about" types.

 

I've experimented with weightlifting, bodyweight calisthenics, and kettlebells. I believe kettlebells may be the most useful for boxers because you can train speed, endurance, and strength simultaneously. This accelerates the conversion and the ability to recruit Type 2A muscle fibers.

A lot of emphasis on this board is placed on the development of Type 2B/2X muscles fibers which are worked through maximal lifting; however, I do not believe it is optimal for boxing.

First of all, you are born with a certain amount of Type 2B muscle fibers, and there is no evidence that your body can convert Type 1 or Type 2A muscle fibers into Type 2B muscle fibers.

There is evidence to support the conversion of Type 1 muscle fibers into Type 2A muscle fibers.

Also, studies have shown that even elite, Olympic level sprinters, when undergoing a training regiment consisting of heavy weight lifting and sprints experience a conversion of Type 2B muscles fibers to Type 2A muscles fibers, while simultaneously improving their sprint speed.

Since boxing is a sport that depends on speed, endurance, and strength, it would reason that the development of Type 2A muscles fibers which are more durable than Type 2B muscles fibers would be optimal for the sport.

There are many ways to go about developing those muscle fibers, from calisthenics to weightlifting, but empirically, I have decided that kettlebell training optimizes what's necessary for you to develop your speed and strength and leave enough in your tank to devote to developing your skills.

Perhaps, as I learn more explosive calisthenic methods that I cannot yet perform, I will change my opinion, but I've found out through training mainly with kettlebells, I have been able to perform the same feats of calisthenic strength I was able to do when I was soley training calisthenics.

That is not to say, you could peform those actions without training specifically for them, it's just that the strength and the durability is still there.

You can do whatever you want though. Virus will come on here and talk **** and so will dealt with who still has psychological problems.

But remember, Virus did get butt f ucked by that dude and contracted the HIV and dealt with was that dude that butt f ucked him.

Choose wisely.

 

Yeah sorry guys, i wasn't taking a dig at lifting, my point was specificity and developing the motor skills of boxing through sparring. LOL i have read lots of articles regarding strength building, i have grown up with a fully equipped free weights gym in my house and a family full of fitness enthusiasts, which has aloud me to experiment with strength training and conditioning from a young age. You just have to think for yourselves, you want to be throwing as many accurate punches as fast as you can in a 3 minute round, now whatever you believe will enhance this then do it. Yeah im new to this forum too my first actually, however this doesn't change the fact that i love a debate To make me more efficient for the 3 rounds extra conditioning exercises i use are Long hill runs, hill sprints, medicine *****, kettle bells, sledgehammer and calisthenics. I believe they develop a good foundation of strength, a solid conditioning level for the 3 minute rounds, and mimic my heart rate levels during a round to some degree. I'm open to your criticism

 

You need to understand that some time ago, there was a video released of dealt_with just givin it to Virus.

dealt_with and virus used to have different screen names. They changed them after "the incident."

Anyway, the story goes, that dealt_with formerly, "Lefty," got into an argument with the guy that Virus used to be.

They decided to settle it off the computer.

Anyway, Lefty went over and video taped him butt f uckin the man now known as Virus.

Little did Virus know that Lefty who is an old man with a nipple ring was also engaged in *******ual activities and had been for some time and contracted the HIV virus.

So, after "the incident," Lefty changed his name to "dealt_with" referring to the man formerly known as Virus and Virus of course adopted the screen name "Virus."

I believe Virus actually has full blown Aids at this point, but you'll have to review his post history for accuracy.

Somehow that piece of shlt Lefty is rumored to have beaten HIV. You just can't kill that piece of shlt.

 

Your muscles are never completely fresh, training is the balance between fitness and fatigue. Being stronger/more powerful means that you're more efficient and your boxing sessions are less taxing physiologically. If you have weight training experience then a lifting session takes very little out of you. Do you think every other athlete in every sport is messing themselves up by performing weight training so close to/on the same day as their skill training?
The research shows that stronger people recover faster.

 

The only way to increase the ratio of type 11x fibres is by doing nothing... Hence part of the rationale for the taper. Any strength training you do will increase the ratio of type 11a fibres while decreasing type 1 and type 11x. Fibre type is not everything anyway