Weird question!

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    This is the ugly and maybe stupid one but...
    Why fighters with amazing skinny-jacked physique didn't have good chins!
    Cleveland Williams,Norton,Satterfield,Hearns,Julian,Gerald,Benn...
    They did have amazing built and punching power as punch but they looked like they didn't have raw power of natural strenght!
    Marciano,Liston,Foreman...did have that punching power but also they did have that pure body strenght!Is that what made their chins better than those just punchers!It's like punchers just like have punch and amazing built but Marciano,Chuvalo,Liston,Bonavena,Foreman...not only had punching power but they have body strenght and more thicky built!Is that what makes them better to give and take punches!Liston-Williams and Hagler-Hearns showed that!Liston and Hagler could take and give punches while Cleveland and Hearns appeared that they could only bang but not take punches very well!What is your oppinion about this?
     
  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Body building muscles are not smooth and quick. Like Rocky was told early on in his career, weightlifting can ruin a guy like you for boxing. Power comes from technique. Not bulging slow no snap muscles. Bunched up muscles lose flexibility. I always thought Mancini destroyed his career by becoming musclebound & losing his snap.
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love seeing guys like Liston, Foreman, Marciano, Bonavena, etc.,...destroy those "body beautiful" types. Both Liston-Williams and Foreman-Norton bouts are beautiful to behold!
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I have no idea why, I imagine it's a mix of genetics and chin/physique having no correlation at all. However, Emile Griffith is a guy who clearly bucks that trend. ATG chin and as chiseled as they come.
     
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  5. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One thing is musculature and another thing is frame (bone structure). Foreman, marciano,chuvalo were big boned guys , so they were solid like rocks
     
  6. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler too.
     
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  7. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    McClellan had a good chin, he weight drained 20lbs of water weight, which meant his brain had less water to protect it. This is likely why he got a brainclot. Benn had a good chin when he tooked it.

    Chin is partly about defense, tooking it down into your chest so it has less scope to move. It's also about neck length and neck strength. The shorter the neck the better. The stronger the neck the more impact it can absorb. This is why Tyson did tons of neck bridging exercises.
     
  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Weird question, but three of these listed did not have that much power in HW, two of them took Floyd Patterson the distance while the other on your list needed two rounds alltogether in two fights!
    Weird question 2nd, did you miss the most stocky HW of them all, Mike Tyson? Why? Who had in fact a solid chin and hell of power??
     
  9. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson was packed of muscle, he was not any bigger than Frazier. Chuvalo was barelly taller than Tyson and he weighed the same but he was not inflated like a ball. Chuvalo had more solid frame than Tyson,
     
  10. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Tyson chin is bad,very bad!He was powerful but he wasn't Foreman or Shavers!And Tyson wasn't jacked and ripped!
     
  11. andrewe

    andrewe Ezekiel 33 banned Full Member

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    Chin is also mixed with heart. That's the main difference between a dude that has a good chin and a great chin, one has more heart. Even if you just have a decent chin, if you have tons of heart you will be able to take, or at least get up from, most any punch.
     
  12. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson had a solid chin stop trolling
     
  13. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Stop trolling?Are you Tyson fan with several youtube channels who comment every his video and always pull excuses?
    Tyson was knocked by bum Douglas,ex cruiser Holyfield,good puncher Lewis and two bums Williams and McBride!That is not solid chin!
     
  14. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about, check my comments about Tyson and hardly i could be called tyson fan. Simply i am fair and you are a tyson hater with zero credibility when you comment about him
     
  15. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    I am Tyson hater!Bully who do not respect his opponemts,fans,camermans and told something bad to fighter did not deserve to be called boxing champion!People liked thaz because they tought that was exciting but It was disgraceful to boxing!Tyson always had that ego!You never see him working with fan or go to visit fans somewhere because he think he is something!Tommy Morrison if you call him nice and asked hin to visit your home and train with you will do that because he was strong guy but he wasn't a bully and respected his fans!Frazier also!
    I only said facts about his personality and about his chin!