Weirdest weight changes?

Roy Jones droping from heavyweight to light heavy.

 

A big fatso like Butterbean can probably lose weight just with a big bowel movement.I mean , whats 50 pounds if you're 150 overweight?

 

I dont think that its that weird for one to drop from Heavy to LHW, the problem that Jones had was that he had alot of muscle mass, which is harder to lose, and in draining and starving your body to lose that weight it takes alot out of a fighter. A fighter can easily come down, but must have a body that will respond positively to such a weight loss. Cause remember Jones was only a lil over 190 lbs, so 15lb wouldnt be that much, unless its under the circumstances i mentioned above.:good

 

Actually, Roy Jones didn't need to lose any weight post Ruiz, pre Tarver. Weighing 192lbs for Ruiz, he was 17lbs over the LT Heaveyweight limit; many fighters CUT over 17lbs for every fight they have; Joan Guzman recently cut 23lbs.

The point is, Jones could have dehydrated for Tarver without losing a single pound of muscle. Lets say Jones was one of the unusual fightesr who could only dehydrate 10lbs, tops. He still would have to have lost 7lbs of muscle maximum; far from the rediculous excuses of the Junior huggers "he lost over 20lbs of muscle" etc. Bull****. Junior lost becasue he was old and Tarver was a good fighter.

 

Read some information on human anatomy. In particular, the ratio of water in male adult's body, on average, and what are symptoms and consequences of losing certain amounts of water.

 

Dwight Qawi weighed 190 for Holyfield rematch, on December 5, then in 3.5 months, on March 19, he weighed 222 for Foreman (and put up a very decent performance in the first 6 rounds), but on November 23 same year dropped to 193.
Iran Barkley weighed 168 for Toney, then in half-year comes in at 208 pounds.
Late Archie Moore's weight went up and down considerably between fights.

 

Boxers cut weight, often over 20lbs, ******.

 

The composition of water in the weight of adults is about 60-65%. For Ruiz's Jones and using higher limit 65% it would be about 125 pounds of water.
Of 125 pounds:
1% = 1.25 lb
2% = 2.50 lb
3% = 3.75 lb
4% = 5.00 lb
5% = 6.25 lb
6% = 7.50 lb
7% = 8.75 lb
8% = 10.00 lb
9% = 11.25 lb
10% = 12.50 lb
11% = 13.75 lb
12% = 15.00 lb
13% = 16.25 lb

Levels of dehydration:
1% - Thirst, desire to drink something.
2% - Feeling of unrest. Loss of apetite. Capacity for work decreases by about 20%. Mouth feels dry. Breathing starts to have specific smell. Tongue feels sluggish, hard to speak.
4% - Nausea. Giddiness. Emotional instability. Body feels dog-tired. Almost no wish to drink anything.
6% - Color of face changes sharply. Outward appearance is horrible. Strong giddiness. Coordination of movements is broken. Overall aggression. Unable to produce connected speech.
10% - Added to the symptoms above are: heat regulation is broken, cells extinction begins.
11% - It's no longer enough to just drink water. Urgent professional medical help is needed to stop serious changes in chemical balance of organism.
20% - Urgent medical help is not needed anymore.


Buy yourself a book on human anatomy and read it, before you make claims like the one above.

 

So you get thirsty when you're dehydrated? Wow I only wish I had the same books you do. Now stop talking at me ******.

 

A less extreme but more recent example is Eddie Mustafa Muhammad moving to Heavyweight to fight Renaldo Snipes. He fought Snipes at 201 3/4 pounds. One day off two months later he fought Michael Spinks in defence of his 175 title and had to take off weight pre fight after coming in too heavy. He fought at 175 on the dot. This is say 27 pounds in two months, and we don't know when Mustafa started cutting the weight in earnest. Little wonder he tired badly in the second half of the fight.

 

A recent one I've always been highly suspicious about is Danny Williams weighing in at 228lbs vs Scott Gammer earlier this year.

The only other time Danny had ever been below 230lbs was for his pro debut, way back in October '95. He hadn't been below 240 since 2002, below 250 since 2003...he hadn't even been below 260 since 2003, even!

Very strange. In fighting his rematch against Audley Harrison just less than 3 months earlier, he clocked in at 267lbs.

So for those in the know, because I'd be interested in the scientific side of this...is it likely that Danny could drop 39lbs in 3 months? Against all previous evidence over the years of his training (and eating) habits and a steadily increasing average weight?

And then in his next fight, the recent one against Platov, Danny was back to being heavy again, 270lbs. So either he had the most amazing one-off fat loss programme in recent boxing history, only to inexplicably throw it all away and tuck into the pies again...or that 228lbs is highly dubious as I've always maintained.

Just something that bugs me Any thoughts on this?

 

I think when williams weighs in at 270 or so that he adds hidden weights,he has admitted this once,cant remember the fight.
Against gammer check gammers weight and if it deviated from the norm for evidence of foul play with the scales,i remember when nunn fought lt heavy ashley crawford at 168,crawford got to the scales at 163 and he and his manager swore the scale was rigged 5 pounds short,nunn weighed 168 dead,and the implication was that nunn actually weighed 173 but couldnt make this weight so the scales were rigged...Anybody who knows ashley would know he is a big man and no way could he have got down to 163 when he normally fought at 175 and later 190. (he was also 6 ft 3 at least.)

 

Senya,while what you say is partially true,many boxers cut weight drastically and dangerously to make weight and enter the ring up to 20 pounds heavier than the weigh in...
If you make the excuse for jones,then you must realise that toney came in 17 pounds heavier than the weigh against jones,so does this excuse the poor performance/loss and discredit the jones win?
Im sure many opponents of jones and others added heaps of weight after the weigh in,its unfortunately standard practice now.
I also note that when guys are winning and gaining a big advantage in size they never complain,but as soon as they lose they blame weight making....
Bring back the weigh-ins to just before the fight or have some sort of limit which cannot be exceeded after the weigh in,say the amount which would make the fighter technically in a different division...