Welcome To The Wasteland: The Once Great Super Middleweight Division Is In Shambles.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Feb 13, 2016.


  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    these days I don't think anyone could get away in smw with hijacking titles or fighting weaklings for years, unless they got an unknown unwanted smw title like cowrdzaghe had for so long, such as todays WBF belt that no one in their right mind wants to keep.


    who is the wbf smw titleholder at the mo... Z Zatkyo? exactly. no one wants it, juts like no one wanted cowardzaghes title in the 90s and early 20002.

    .....Eubank, Byron Mitchell and Richie Woodhall thought cowardzaghes wbo title shot was a retirement prize for them!
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think Ward ever fought a mandatory?
    Wasnt Chudinovs last fight against Buglioni?
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    haha complaining about ward... who faced cowardzaghes best, last win in his first title fight, and ecplised joe's effort.

    typical cowardzaghe fan, in topsy turvy land.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hows it complaining by saying I dont think someone fought a mandatory?
    Your obsession seems to be taking over any sense you may have once had. Think ESB is getting to you
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    typical cowardzaghe fan, now running from his argument that cowardzaghes wins are more "valid"... when in reality ward eclipsed cowardzaghes best, last win with his first title fight, and more easily.

    my names not carl froch u don't need to run from me.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What do you think Im running from?
    Running is what you just did from my question of me asking Hows it complaining by saying I dont think someone fought a mandatory?
    Didnt think you would be able to answer and as said, your obsession seems to be taking away any ability you may have once had for a logical debate. Get help, its not too late. Good luck
     
  7. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great names will come in 168:

    Top Contender in the USA:
    Jesse Hart 19-0-0-0 (KO 16) already beat 17-0-0-0 Mike Jimenez

    Top Prospect in the USA:
    Malcolm McAllister 5-0-0-0 (KO 5), Very powerful puncher

    UK, Canada & Australia also traditionally have a deep 168 division they prepare from the amateurs, so keep an eye for them.
     
  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You entire post is under the assumption that Degale even agrees to fight GGG.
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    what does it matter if wards better resume is has mandos or not?

    Calzaghe fought freaking super weakling Mario Veit as a mando so mando dont prove shyt.


    but ward still eclipsed joes best, cumulative win of his entire career, with wards first ever title fight. run cowardzaghe run.
     
  10. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Herol making another thread about a retired fighter who he obsesses about.


    Anyway people are acting like this is just happening lately with GGG. He has been waiting for his big shot at MW since being with Universum and back when Sturm was nearly prime. He is content waiting in the MW division without taking any risks where he could of moved up earlier and possibly became lineal at SmW. Also where are all the GGG fans saying he beat up Kovalev but also spout off it doesn't make sense for him to move up? If he easily handled Kovalev he could of been a 3 weight champ and possibly lineal at 168 and 175 by now. But instead he is waiting on Canelo but don't worry he was promised the winner of Canelo-Cotto righhhhhhhhhht.

    His biggest wins are a B level Lemieux who was beaten by an old Rubio and what an even older historic Rubio? Or how about Murray who almost beat Martinez? Get real the Mw division might get better as there are alot of upcoming fighters but the GGG, Quillin, Jacobs, Lemieux, Lee, Ndam, era is certainly weak. So GGG will wait like he has done for a LONG TIME and hope he isn't too old when he gets his shot at the next era.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Draw against AA, draw against Sturm, lost to Sergio. Murray is average in every way, he does just enough to make it vaguely competitive, nothing more.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :goodI covered the Khmotisky-Stieglitz debacle in my GGG's resume thread, but thanks for adding this, I had to edit this monstrosity, it was so big I couldn't fit it into one post.:lol: GGG takes out AA with relative ease, but I think Zurdo will beat him to it, while I don't think Zurdo is a huge puncher, he packs more of a wallop than MM, I think A is ripe for the picking.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Please stop my ribs hurt, you're so clever you're so witty.:roll:
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Vlasov vs Zurdo Ramirez was fought at altitude and Vlasov was complaining (which was picked up by the HBO commentary team) during the fight that it was affecting him and he was having difficulty breathing.

    Yes, I think Ramirez should beat Abraham too. He throws a lot of punches (which is a tried and tested proven formula to beat Abe) and he definitely packs more power than Murray.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah other than the fact that I thoroughly explained why they're all past it and or overrated as hell. A few of them have name value but that's it, its a shell of a division, the only thing poorly thought out is your post. Because if you really KSAB then you'd know Geale and Monroe aren't the best representations of where MW is out or going, there's a ton of interesting fighters at MW, with a possibility of guys like JRock and Jermall and Andrade moving up to make it even more compelling. SMW has almost no even half decent prospects to speak of.:verysad