Well he was old

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I ****ing hate this excuses if you are an all-time great you probably won't lose in your prime and only at the tail end of your career
     
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  2. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I kind of agree but if both are old and it's a fight that could've been made years before, then that's a different story.
     
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  3. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most of the time its a fact not an excuse. Example: Ali vs berbick. No way a prime or slightly past his prime Ali would lose to Berbick.
    Age is a Mk'er.
    I think the "he was shot" is a worst excuse.
    Some fighters are considered "shot" in their 20's.
    Not all fighters are Hopkins or Foreman.
    Age more times than not is a real reason some good/great fighters lose.
     
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  4. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Totally agree
     
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  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    If you're the first to beat a top guy you should get credit for it especially if he's undefeated young guy beating an old guy is just the passing of the torch
     
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  6. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can be a big difference in a fighter at 36 vs 33.
     
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  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    If no one has beat them I don't really care
     
  8. split_decision

    split_decision Electronic information tampers with your soul Full Member

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    Yeah Marciano beat Louis get over it lol
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The phrase ,,"in his prime " is used for a reason. Sugar Ray Robinson lost 19 fights, 1 in his prime. In his prime Roberto Duran was 72-1 , If a great fighter is 35 and loses to a 25 year old yeah ,age is a dominant factor and it can't be dismissed
     
  10. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its slightly over used sometimes.
    But do you know what I hate even more.

    People saying oh he was too green....ie too young..
    Like when a non roided canelo got whooped by Floyd, trout and Lara.
    Or when tank don't want to fight Loma. He's too green ATM.
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If the only reason you are in the ring is that Uncle Sam has a bayonet to your back ,and you can't throw a right hand to save your life, you are truly old.
     
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  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I get you and I've been guilty of both in the past
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wellllllll, yeah. :lol:
     
  14. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I don't know, I think it matters. I'm not the type of guy to dismiss the win completely, e.g. if a fighter is 2 years removed from his prime it's still a very good win, but you don't get credit for beating the guy as if he's still in his prime when he's clearly declined.
     
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  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Maybe Usain Bolt can try beat his world record 9.58sec when he turns 38. Get into training six months before, and should be no problems being as good as he was. I mean, ageing is just an excuse. There's literally no proof physical performances drop off when an athlete gets older. None at all...
     
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