Well, it's a good thing Floyd paved the way for the random testing!!

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  1. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I'm deeply heartbroken. Especially since Anabolic steroids have always been detectable through urine, unlike some of the other PEDs out there, you ****ing moron. :thumbsup
     
  2. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    word on the street is Floyd make her take the test every night :deal
     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Undetectable through urine doesn't mean detectable through blood either. And I know you didn't say that. Just making sure I mentioned it before you did.

    Just pointing out blood testing isn't what many morons (*****s) think it's supposed to be. Blood testing only gives you an indication of possible PEDs use though a high RBC count. I know you didn't say anything about it. Just making sure I mentioned it before you can use it against me.

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  4. Santino

    Santino Guest

    Well if you use both, what harm can it do to? As there is a higher chance of catching the culprit :yep
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Shut the **** up and stop trying to be picky. Random blood and urine is the way to go. There are some things that urine can't catch that are out on the market. You are just trying to make an excuse for your boy Manny. We all know that.
     
  6. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Peterson juiced when random testing was in place based on his own demand from Khan. Then he certainly juiced in their first fight and other previous fights putting Khan's and other fighters health at risk. That low life disguised as a humble guy should be banned.
     
  7. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This also further validates Mayweather's demand that Manny agree to random Olympic style testing. Manny is a politician he has dodged the testing issue very well.
     
  8. OttkeRuiz

    OttkeRuiz Guest

    Why do all the black people on ESB have Canelo as their avatar now
     
  9. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Read up and learn. :D

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294487

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    This is for those who say giving blood for tests does not affect athletic performance.

    Blood tests for drug use involve collecting about 10-20 cc of blood (1-2 vials). 4 of these drug tests will equal 50-100 cc, or about 10% - 20% of a pint of blood given in donations (450cc).


    1. How do periodic reductions in hemoglobin affect an athlete's ability to train?

    From: Inside Triathlon
    Blood is a complicated tissue with many different roles. When you donate blood, you give up a pint of fluid containing mostly water along with various proteins and cells in solution. During high-intensity endurance activities however, it is hemoglobin, found within our red blood cells, that is most important.

    Hemoglobin delivers oxygen to our tissues, and when we exercise our muscles require increased amounts of oxygen. If we lack sufficient hemoglobin, anaerobic, or without oxygen, metabolism will ensue (producing lactic acid) at even seemingly moderate levels of intensity.

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    , (which is why you may not donate more often than every two months). What then are the lasting effects of this red blood cell loss?


    Assuming that your cardiac output (the amount of blood pumped by the heart) remains constant, a drop in hemoglobin concentration associated with donating blood will reduce your oxygen delivery to working muscles by 10 percent. Still, when you are at rest, or even during moderate levels of exercise, oxygen delivery, even at this decreased capacity, far outpaces demand.

    However, once you reach a heart rate that is around 5 to 10 percent below your usual anaerobic threshold, your body's demand for oxygen will outpace its supply. For example, if your metabolism typically becomes anaerobic at a heart rate of 170, then after donating blood you will become anaerobic at a heart rate of between 157 and 164 beats per minute. This value will fluctuate because your hemoglobin level will be rising slowly each day, thus the most significant effect will be felt in the first few days after donating.

    2. Donating Blood - What Active People Need to Know

    He notes that many variables make it difficult to predict how much or how long donating a pint of blood will affect athletic performance. However, he notes that recovery after blood donation is fairly fast. Eichner writes: "In my anecdotal experience,
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    10% of 4 weeks is roughly 3 days, the same amount of time Pac complains about not feeling well in training after giving blood for testing hepatitis. :deal
     
  10. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Testing no longer an issue. Only issue left is revenue split.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    :patsch **** Pac. How do you not feel well for 3 days yet go out and train for hours the next day after giving blood for the Hatton fight? In a hot ass gym with record heat temps outside. :patsch
     
  12. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    That's true. That's why you need blood testing to see if there are an abnormal red blood cell count. That's something you can do RIGHT AFTER the fight as you cannot flush out a high RBC count. Ever wonder why Floyd and Shane stopped blood testing 18 days before their fight? And no, it wasn't because it was random. It was because it's dangerous to take out blood from boxers who stand to lose more blood in a fight already.
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Pac has been the only fighter to complain out of Floyd, Mosley, Cotto, Khan, etc.

    He's just a puto
     
  14. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    I don't know how badly he feels but I'd be pissed off if I had a world title fight coming up and wasn't feeling 100% while training.
     
  15. Cellz831

    Cellz831 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    maybe we just like white mexicans :smooch