Well prepared Kevin Mitchell

Oh FFS...

Burns has done really well, he's a lovely guy, etc. But special? He's pretty average.

 

judging by "class of opponent" right? I mean, Katsidis didn't get smacked on the chin big time by the mighty Fred Kunithia, didn't look crude as **** against pot-head Earl. Katsidis has looked very vulnerable even before the Amonsot fight or Earl fight.

Burns is better than Katsidis, much better.

 

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rediculous thing to say

 

You need to make sure your logic is sound before trying to prattle patent bias at me, man. Being competitive with Casamayor, Diaz, Marquez, etc is still better than anyone Ricky's beaten. The guy was in world-class for the last few years, Burns only just stepped up by facing him. And no, Martinez was not world-class.

You also cannot deny Michael was faded in the Burns fight. Not massively so, but he wasn't as relentless as he used to be.

"ridiculous" actually. Anyway, how the hell is it? Burn has lost to Alex Arthur and Carl Johanneson and Alex Arthur, neither of whom were world class (as proven by the lineage of that ridiculous SFW belt he held".

What exactly is "special" about Ricky Burns? The fact he's Scottish? Please, tell me.

 

I'm not scottish lol.

In world class yes....winning at that level.. no


Burns learned on the job, some fighters mature differently than others, The Ricky Burns who lost to Arthur or Johannesson is much, MUCH different than the Burns of today, Burns is..dare I say ir..on FIRE! in his absolute prime.

 

Special fighters do not lose to Euro-level guys like Arthur or domestic guys like Johanneson. That's just a fact. Special, to me, means you belong in the elite. Burns will never be elite because he lacks the physical gifts needed.

I like him a great deal, but he won't beat Marquez, Rios, etc.

 

You know something MR BB? I hope you are right about Burns-Rios! The jock fighters have always had a rough ride on here though, cos english boxing like a previous poster here has already said, have had more champs in the last 15 years than scotland has had in its history. So they are generally dismissive of our fighters, cos they have never really needed em! They have always had their own champs to cheer on. I dont argue the point that England is more of a boxing country than Scotland, IMO as a result they will always be more successful. And of course the ancient rivalry tends to factor in peoples decision making process in who will win a fight
& I have been guilty of it myself in the past before anyone pulls me up, I know... picking an old inactive Tszyu to beat Hatton one of my worst Im older & wiser now though:hey

As for Rios though? I must admit that I think the guy is special, hes as tough as old boots, can take a shot from a guy like Murray even though hes dead at the weight no problem without even marking up(when most weight drained fighters cut easily) & punches like hes got a loan of Margaritos gloves from his first fight with Cotto... IMO if Ricky is ever unlucky enough to fight this guy it could be like a modern day Buchanan-Duran fight style wise if you know what I mean.

Anyway enjoy yer swally BB, I have just polished of a wee bottle of white wine myself:yep

 

Yeah because a guy like Amir Khan couldn't get ****ing destroyed by a perfect counter left hook off a body shot by a Columbian puncher like Breidis Prescott. Then go on to ****ing make a mockery out of Paulie "The only way is Jersey" Malignaggi, who's best win is Juan Diaz.


I picked Prescott against Alvarado..

"Prescott is fighting a perfect fight! A much better fight than hes ever fought before!"

Emmanuel Stewart talking ****, has he ever seen Prescott fight before? Of course he goes and gasses again, but not before making a stew out of Alvarados face

 

So its laughable that the thought even entered my head that Burns could have stopped Katsidis? I must have imagined Marquez stopping him then, & Marquez was never noted for his power. Great boxer yes, great puncher? ach what do I know.

 

I do not see much between the two fighters to be honest, you could make a solid case for either and it will be close either way but the trainers are miles apart in terms of achievements and intelligence, so for that reason i'd have my money on Mitchell.

Who would you rather have in your corner Jimmy Tibbs or Billy Nelson?

 

Rios is the bigger stronger harder man, but Burns has the skills to pull of the upset if he fights the perfect fight.

Hopefully though Rios never darkens the doors of LW again

I see a modern day Duran-Buchanan bull vs matador fight if it comes off.

 

dttaylor what do you mean by "what is so special about him?"

Ricky Burns has some great talent, and now that he's in his prime that talent is finally startin to hit its peak and synch up.

theres no point in lookin back to the arthur loss or the johanneson loss because we're talkin about a completely different fighter mate, a peak, evolved figher who is in his prime, yet has great experience too


plus..Burns has never been stopped, talk about the knockdowns all you want, but Burns has not been beaten inside the distance yet

 

Welcome to the world of trying to defend a scottish fighter BB, its like hitting your head off a brick wall I find! Firstly wallet throws mathematical equations at us to tell us that Brit ESB actually was swelling with Burns backers, & DFT is on a one man mission to prove- that hes in with the in crowd

 

Oh **** off. I couldn't give a **** what most say in here. It's not a badge of honour.

It was silly to think burns could stop kats, because.marquez a) is a decent puncher, and b) is the best combo puncher in the world right now. Burns isn't any sort of puncher and is inaccurate beyond two-shot bursts. He's also not a sharp counter-puncher like casamayor. And ****, I was right - he got nowhere near stopping the aussie!

He's a good fighter, not some world class force.

 

Maybe, but Rios has admitted trouble with bodyshots in the past, it's visible, and while Burns isn't a KO machine obviously, he had some brilliant bodyshots, and has hurt almost every opponent I would safely wager (to be safe bar maybe 3-4 margin for error) with a bodyshot. Burns is a machine with bodyshots, and I would wager he could cause Rios trouble to the body with his hooks