Well, well, well... WBO to order mandatory challenge to AJ after Povetkin

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  1. Anne-Marie

    Anne-Marie Member banned Full Member

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    Well Wilder's team have a contract they can sign today and the Joshua fight will be confirmed for April 8th should Wilder find his pen, all he has to do, is sit back in his Alabama crack den and watch Joshua take care of Povetkin next month, then head over to the UK in April, as a unification will trump a mandatory.

    Of course, the WBC, also know as the Wilder Bodyguard Council- have said they won't call the joke Breazeale mandatory now, to clear Wilder's schedule for the next year- they will wait until about I'm guessing April 2019 to call it. Breazeale of course the mandatory on the strength of his one WBC sanctioned fight with Eric Molina (which was only revealed 4 months later to be a final eliminator, despite WBC saying at the time it definitely was not a final eliminator). Whyte meanwhile has won WBC sanctioned fights v Chisora, Helenius, Browne and Parker, is being told he still has to go through Ortiz to be the 2nd mandatory- which could well not be called for at least 3 years, possibly more. Whyte meanwhile is still ranked number 1 with the Wilder Bodyguard Council but still not the mandatory, because number 7 beat number 12 in November.

    Two more details you missed out with your ridiculous conspiracy theories:
    1. Whyte has not been called the WBO mandatory. They have said he may have to fight an eliminator.
    2. Nobody from the WBO said Povetkin would be mandatory. 1 article, from Micheal Benson, who is a fake journalist and called out all the time by proper journos reported this
     
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  2. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I personally don't see the problem with Joshua Vs Whyte in April, seriously, what's the problem?

    Whyte is ranked number 1 with the WBC, Wilder won't fight his number 1 challenger so Joshua will help him out.

    Joshua will save Wilder from having to face his own legitimate number 1 challenger. Wilder can go and fight Breazeale if he gets past Fury, top quality, AJ's leftovers.


    Anyway, Joshua and Whyte will sell very well with the help of Fury and Wilder, who are promoting AJ better than Hearn is at the moment.

    I believe they are now AJ's employees, they are working for AJ, every interview it's AJ, every time they open their mouths it's AJ.. I reckon when they are intimate with their women they picture AJ's face, they are totally obsessed, it's actually quite embarrassing.

    Joshua should seriously consider paying Fury and Wilder for their fantastic promotion.
     
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  3. Anne-Marie

    Anne-Marie Member banned Full Member

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    This was never fact. This was ONLY reported by twitter "journalist" Micheal Benson who is not a journalist. He cited his WBO "sources' of which he is called out time and time again by proper boxing scribes for either making up and not credting. He has the same credibility as Scott Gilford.

    With the article he wrote in talksport, he was trying to figure out when Uysk would be installed as mandatory by reading through some of their rules. Where he went wrong was claiming that Joshua v Povetkin was for the 'Super WBO title', thinking that means Povetkin is mandatory. What he didn't realise is Joshua is already the Super Champ as he has titles with other bodies so is permitted 18 months between mandatories rather than 9 or 12 or whatever for standard WBO champs.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So if Wilder signs this contract, does he have to defend his WBC title against Joshua on Eddie’s terms in Joshua’s backyard with Joshua’s ref and judges even if AJ loses to Povetkin?

    Does Eddie’s alleged contract (which hasn’t been signed by AJ btw) guarantee that it’s a unification ... as in guarantee that Joshua will still be champ? WTF would anyone sign that if it’s not a guaranteed unification? For that matter, does it guarantee the same money and terms if Wilder loses to Fury? If they both lose?

    FACTY: Once AJ decided to fight Povetkin instead of reaching an agreement with Wilder, everything is reset to square one.
     
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  5. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I didn't realize the WBO did the Super Champ ****, thought that was just the WBA. Man...And I liked the WBO, but if they're gonna go down the WBA road that sucks. When did theWBO start the "Super Champ" foolishness, do you know?
     
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  6. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did not realize that the source was incorrect. Thanks.
     
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  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    1. Alexander Povetkin
    2. Dillian Whyte
    3. Jarrell Miller

    :lol:
     
  8. Tazz

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    Usyk will be Joshua's WBO mandatory.
     
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  9. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte deserves the Wilder fight more than anyone else (bar an n shape Fury) Post AJ he has some good wins. Parker is decent, and Del Boy ain't bad even though i thought Chisora won.

    Wilder would smash him to pieces for a career high pay day, seems a no brainer to me
     
  10. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The idea that Whyte hasn't legitimately put himself into the position to challenge AJ is ridiculous. What else does he need to do?

    He has earnt his shot.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Of course it will sell well amongst the casuals in the uk. It's not difficult

    And never did I say there wouldn't be a good financial return but never on the level of a fight vs Wilder or Fury.

    Let's not forget AJ was guaranteed to get 50 million for one fight and that's before a rematch which is why he was estimated to earn over 80 million over two fights. Never will he earn those numbers in the uk whoever he fights. He has to fight in the states if he wants record breaking numbers.

    So if we are talking business wise, it would make sense to take that fight, yet we now know Duckroom and Jenner are determined to avoid Wilder at all costs.

    The fight doesn't need building up, or marinating which is one of Hearn's favourite phrases. No one wants to see a fighter compete against a fading fighter. This is a promoter's manipulation tactic to convince the consumer that they will get more value if they wait longer while in the meantime milk them by selling hack fights.

    Canelo GGG would have done just as good numbers had it taken place when GGG was in his prime. The difference is Oscar wanted to age GGG out and it's the exact same situation in this instance where the cowards are hoping/waiting for Wilder to slow down because right now they don't have any belief that they can win.

    And this is why this is a disgrace and anyone who would rather see a mandatory fight over a unification super fight needs to stop watching boxing.
     
  12. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    Out of interest, do you give AJ any credit for who he's faced in his first 22 professional fights?

    19th opponent - Wladimir Klitschko
    20th opponent - Carlos Takam
    21st opponent - Joseph Parker
    22nd opponent - Alexander Povetkin

    And how do you feel it compares to Wilder's opponents at the same stage..

    19th opponent - Daniel Cota
    20th opponent - David Long
    21st opponent - Marlon Hayes
    22nd opponent - Jesse Oltmans
     
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  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What has that got to do with the ducking that is taking place today? Are you applying that he isn't ready and that he should be allowed to take more fights before fighting Wilder?

    It's a decent resume but he's suppose to be a world champion now and world champions are expected to fight the best, anywhere and any time.

    Fury hasn't had that many more fights and has a similar list of sub standard names in his first 20 fights as do most heavyweights in the past and yet he never hesitated to step up to go to Wilder's backyard to fight him, because he has the heart and mentality of a true champion.
     
  14. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    pointless fight.
     
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  15. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    Well I suppose when you look at the challenges he's taken in his first 22 fights, then maybe he deserves the benefit of the doubt before saying stuff like 'biggest duck in history' etc..

    If we look at risk/reward which is the usual scale when talking about ducking, then I don't even think Povetkin is that far off from Wilder.

    I don't think Joshua has got any problem fighting Wilder, but he seems to be judged by completely different standards to every other boxer. This is the first time an AJ fight hasn't happened exactly when everyone wanted it, and it's complete meltdown.
     
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