Welliver Beats Down Mensah, Forces Him To Flee Ring In The 10th

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  1. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    I meant the winner or the 3 horseman duel. Tua facing winner of Barrett and Welliver = a guy really close to a title shot.

    Chauncy is ready right now. If Chisora got caught up at a gay strip club or something Chauncy would be heading for the airport.
     
  2. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Who's Counting?

    1,080 minutes of HW Boxing and not 1 fool has been able to drop him. :bbb
     
  3. Soloman

    Soloman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes fought no one worth a damn...so of course he hasn't been dropped:patsch

    and the one person he has fought who was (Solis) had him on ***** street at the end
     
  4. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's really a thread bout heavyweights, especially heavyweights on the fringe of contention...Tier 2 guys. That's an interesting subject, but it's from this group that the next genuine contender will either get made or get exposed.

    Good thread.

    CHAUNCEY: When it's your turn to fight muscle boy, just remember that he cannot block a right...not even if his life depended on it...
     
  5. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    HW has always been and always will be my favorite division. It makes me sick to my stomach at how low profile the division has become in the USA. But I have a lot of faith in the division moving forward. I love the Eastern Euros being involved now and the fact that todays HW's really do fight everyone in the world. The next guy from the USA that is able to take over the division will become a massive legend. IMO the division is deeper than it has ever been. I completely disagree with the weak HW era theory.
     
  6. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's the first time I agree with one of your posts :good
     
  7. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm gonna address this post along with Marks........

    Monte aint getting a Klitschko......just aint gonna happen.

    There both starving for better names already. Fury, Dimitrenko, Wach, Welliver, Pulev, Glaskov, Boystov, Helenius, Mitchell, Wilder, Price, Haye, Valuev, Potvetkin........so many names to choose from before giving Monte a shot.

    I love the guy, but his best chance at a title is regional, minor, or W(BALONY)A.
     
  8. Soloman

    Soloman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree...Wlad already battered him ages ago and Vitali probably has 2 or 3 more fights tops...he wont choose a Barrett for one of those
     
  9. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Reports are coming out at DavidTua.net that Barrett vs Tua 3 has been signed. Some rinky dink NZ newspaper just ran a story this weekend saying it is signed. I'm not 100% believing it, but it is believable because it says in July....only Tua would need so damn long.

    IMO Dave Tua is ******ed for not demanding that Chauncy vs Barrett happen to get to him while he sits. It's either the same guy in a way more sellable fight or it is a guy who took care of your bad match up and is Top 5 to both Klits. Tua could even have a hand in that promotion.

    Terrible news if true. This Tua and Barrett fisaco has seriously hampered The Hillyard Hammers career. He has waited over 2 years for 1 of those 2 to defend the full WBO APAC title against him as the interim. He's defended it at least 4 times himself.

    WBO APAC Duckers.....**** Or Get Off The Pot. Defend or Vacate!
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    As much as I like Monte, and as decent as Tua was 49 yrs ago...........neither are relevant in the title picture for the rest of their careers. Chuancey is HIS OWN MAN, and if he chooses to wait on these guys for his road to a title, I guess that's his right.

    But as a fan, unaffiliated with his team, but a friend who sees others leapfrogging him in the eyes of the fans, my opinion is for him to keep moving forward, forgetting about the past and continue to call out relative names, even if they're not as well ranked or in his area.

    Chuancey could prolly get a fight with Sprott, Harrison, or Danny Williams in GB. He could get Owen Beck, Kevin McBride, or Tye Fields to come to China. He could get Damon Reed or Jason Gavern or Nicolai Firtha for a fight in the States, and he could likely get Meehan or Leipei in OZ. And in Europe there are also several decent journeymen like Bydenko, Gammer, Saliffe that he could find a scrap with as well.

    I know he's got his own promotional thing going and that his team is set, but I think Arum, GBP, Suaerland, Universum, or even K2 would welcome him under certain terms.

    Thing is about Chuancey.......he's really still a kid in boxing years. He's got plenty of time to get it going. And there's no sense in us crying over fights that don't come, especially when there's still tons of options out there for him.:good
     
  11. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Welliver came in at 240.

    10 pounds to much. that guy needs to be in recent shape. And 240 is not good.
     
  12. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was suffering from an ear infection and couldn't spar for about 2 weeks I think. Plus like most fighters he likely put on about 15lbs sitting home round Christmas time enjoying family, and moms and wifey's homecooking.

    He'll be around 225-235 for his bigger fights, and they are sure to come in 2012.:good
     
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    Did'nt know that. That makes it okay. Hope it is all better and healthy now.

    But yeah. Liked to see Welliver between 225-230, not more than 235 though.
     
  14. The MesserStick

    The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows Full Member

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    Welliver is in phenomenal shape. His endurance is 2nd to none in the entire HW division.

    What you are seeing is that he is yoyoing very slightly as he nears his bottom weight. This process with him is not just about losing fat weight. He has also been body building with more weight training than ever before. And doing crazy core workouts with his personal trainer Ali Crosbie to pump up muscles he rarely used before. They run crazy MMA like camps.

    He has lost almost all of the fat weight that he had to lose, but he is also picking up additional muscle weight and strength along the way. The key with him is not a weight in particular, it is how strong he is feeling come fight time and how much energy he has in the bank when he gets there.

    If he is depriving himself of nutrician while working so hard it will not benefit him. If he has a diet that sheds the pounds but makes him feel weaker its a **** diet. If coming to the scales at 230 means not being your best, its not a worthy goal to have.

    Also he didn't get his 80 rounds of sparring in before this fight. That would have improved his timing for the fight early and also it would have probably dropped the weight some. He was doing other training to replace it which is all muscle building work.

    As for Chicago's take on the HW's. They are all fair game. Traps are in place all over the world for HW's to get snared by Welliver for a big fight.
     
  15. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Complete and utter bull**** again, unlless you're talking about endurance at the all you can eat buffet bar. I'd like Chauncy try to hang though a Klitschko training session. I'll bet he never even gets in a pool. Not entirely his fault though, he has a joke of a trainer.