The best fighter that ever lived, cant believe how little footage we have of his WW days, 5 Lamotta fights & 2 Gavilan fights not even recorded & we have footage of Jack Johnson from 1909... fkn shocking.
Yes S, this is the prime WW Ray Robinson koing Tony Riccio of New Jersey in 1946. This is the Ray Robinson I saw at MSG,6 months before koing tough Jimmy McDaniels. What a fighter he was at this time. The big difference between Robinson and Ray Leonard was that EVERY punch Robinson threw, he put all his weight behind all his punches. Robinson was vicious in a "stylish" way...I was privileged to have seen THIS Sugar Ray...
Why doesn't he look like a spastic on 'herky jerky black and white footage' but other 'greats' do? Hmmmmmmmmmmm???
Stonehands you seem to know a lot of technical tricks that SRR, Burley, Charles, Louis and other boxing masters from this period used, for example I learned of SRR's "Candy-Cane shot" from you, and that right to the body, left hook to the head, and how to avoid the right cross counter, you should write articles containing all of these tricks so guys could learn the methods from old boxing masters, or even make a video similar to that Burley fight when he fought Oakland Billy Smith???
Because,by the 1940s, films were shot in real time. Just look how "modern" Barney Ross,Henry Armstrong, Lou Ambers,Joe Louis ,look a decade earlier... in the earlier days ,the technology was so primitive, that the fighters look like they were in a Charlie Chaplin movie. Herky-Jerky ! Cheers...
Thanks. I don't know how much of an audience would want to read just about all the old, forgotten tricks, so I kind of couch them in articles.
Well I'd be interested in that stuff as would many other forum members who box or are interested in what those guys knew that they don't know today. Even if its not a full article, I'd be interested to see what these guys did, like a small profile card. Just curious, how many of these tricks of SRR do you have? just asking because he is easily the best fighter we have film of. Perhaps you would care to list a couple of these tricks of past fighteres here?
robinson would box part of a round, showing sound skill and style, but he always spent part of EACH round trying to take the other guy OUT. He took risks. This is what makes him so exciting, he would mix it up even though he did not have to. He really whipped them in from way outside. what a gamble, but he was good enough to go for it.
I do think boxers from the 20s could easily hang with guys from the 40s onwards, you have to admit even Tunney and Gibbons who were seen as smooth boxers do not look at all smooth and slick compared to Robinson in these films. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcyqmnXNY-w[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_mW0hdS8Dk[/ame] Though stance looks very similar, Robinson is holding his left very low in this fight, similar to how Tunney is...
Here's bout 10 minutes of Robinson title defence against Docusen, [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qORkfNNnYA[/ame]