Welterweight: Wilfred Benitez vs Jose Napoles

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  1. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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  2. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Napoles eventually breaks through Benitez's guard & stops him late.
     
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  3. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Thats a a good take.

    Napoles IMO hit a bit harder than Sugar Ray Leonard. And Leonard was no singles-hitter either.
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Oh man Napoles would kill Benitez, mismatch bout in my estimation.
     
  5. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody, anywhere, ever, kills a peak Wilfredo Benitez.
     
  6. Journeyman92

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    I’d wager a few would make it very one sided Napoles would punish Benitez for his lack of offence badly.
    When your first priority is not being hit you can be hard to get rid of, but you don’t accomplish that much expect surviving with all that movement.
    How Wilfredo wagged his head around… it shut his own offence down, his weight would be all over the place, the reflexive pulling and tugging this way and that took him out of range or made him unable to throw a good shot often - he was hard to hit (yes) but when he did get hit he got hit hard, Curry bounced him off the canvas like a basketball.
    Wilfredo Benitez I respect greatly, as I do all fighters who get in the ring but he had vulnerabilities that arguably one of the BEST boxers of all time (Napoles) would take care of.
     
  7. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A World Champion while in High School (beating a HoF Champ) isn’t enough to qualify as an accomplishment?
     
  8. Journeyman92

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    It is something but it’s not relevant in a H2H discussion.
     
  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll lean to Benitez in this one by decision. As great as he was Jose Napoles
    was a natural lightweight. It's a testament to his skill level the success he
    had a welter.
    But he never faced anyone as skilled a Benitez. And Benitez fought
    the 2nd best welter in history in Ray Leonard ,and gave him a run for his money.
    Also at super welter, Benitez managed to frustrate the great
    Thomas Hearns. Both those fighters were bigger and better than Napoles.

    It probably would be a boring fight. A cerebral one. Only liked by the fans
    who appreciate the great skills that would be demonstrated by both men.
    But Benitez, being the natural bigger man, and defensively harder to hit
    cleanly would began to pull away as the fight progressed. His hand
    speed (Which seems to get over looked by many) would allow him
    to land more than he received. Also, Napoles who seemed to cut
    easily, would be very susceptible from Benitez's sharp counters.
    I like Benitez by close but unanimous dec.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would not argue with your assessment,
     
  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    For my money Napoles is one the most elite offensive fighters (and overall boxers) ever seen on film. With that offense, he also had a relatively high defensive standard and visual acuity around his peak (e.g. 140lb run and Cokes). Napoles was a also a great ring general who knew when to turn it up, whereas Benitez could start admiring his own work and be inconsistent. An elite offensive fighter with comparable defense nearly always beats an elite defensive fighter, in my view, especially when they can be somewhat lacadisical.

    Also, people mention the Cervantes bout whilst forgetting how close it was and how tight the rounds actually were. Cervantes had a good argument for deserving the decision imo. He'd also already been active for yonks by that point. People gloss over this nowadays and talk like it was some domination, which is unfair to Cervantes.
    Benitez also had struggles with Palomino who, whilst quality, was not a patch on Napoles offensively or defensively.
    The Leonard bout is also overstated. Benitez was competitive but was clearly losing, especially after the 6th when SR started to invest in the body. This bout actually shows quite a few of Benitez's flaws I have previously mentioned.

    At 140, I think Napoles was a monster and wins clear against the yet to be fully developed Benitez. At 147, I think it's close but I favour Napoles (at his best) by decision.
     
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