Wembley klitschko is a lot worse then duesseldorf klitschko

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  1. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    People are insane,

    I mean that is very typical for boxing fans to hype fighter that were in a brawl. Wlad was alot better 2 years ago. The reason why he let his hands go in this fight was that he could land on joashua. He did not 2 years ago because fury was to good.
    Me and my friends already saw that this was not going to be a pretty night for klitschtko just by seeing his movement in the first 2 rounds.
    And a whole lot of people act as if wlad had grown a chin for this fight. Truth is wlad had always a solid chin, you simply wont last 10 years as a hw champion with a ok chin. People often act as if wlad never got punched by any of his opponents.

    It all reminds me of provodnikov. Everybody was sucking this guys c*** because he had that bradley fight. But then got destroyed by mathiesse and etc.
     
  2. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    So how was he worse??
     
  3. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    His movement was good, what are you talking about ?
    And how was he a lot better in a fight where he didn't throw a punch ?

    Explain me your point, i want to know why he was better because i don't see it at all.
     
  4. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the only gear fury has. If you can't grasp the importance of your mental state going into a championship fight you are ****ings reetarded!!!
     
  5. Okin129

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    Even his brother Vitali said that it was his best performance against AJ, so you are calling Vitali Klitschko insane ?
     
  6. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Watch 20:25. you see that quite often, simply general sloppy movement compared to the fury fight. Also his jab was alot better in the fury fight.
    The only reason he looked bad in the fury fight was fury.
    And the reasond why he looked good in wembley were aj poor boxing, stamina and klitschkos good chin and expirience.
     
  7. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah vitali klitschko is definitely insane....
     
  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People must realise something...

    Wlad always does exactly the same things in every camp. So he's always at his best physical shape for his age in every fight.

    He has 10-week training camp for every fight. Usually Wlad has 5 weeks camp in Kiev and then 5 weeks in Austria.

    What can make the difference at how he looks in the ring, it's his opponent and Wlad's mental shape at the time of the fight.

    But physically Wlad never came undertrained or overtrained in the last 10-12 years at least.
     
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  9. Ant Sutton

    Ant Sutton I love boxing Full Member

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    Different perspective and valid points. I think Wlad coming off a loss, time off, being much more motivated - made him a better fighter on the night in Wembley.
     
  10. Okin129

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    I don't see sloppy movement, this is all you have and this is the reason why he was better in the Fury fight ?

    If you think that AJ has poor boxing skills or stamina, i would recommend you to put your glasses on.
    Have you even seen the fight ?

    Tyson Fury has a completely different fighting style than Anthony Joshua. I wouldn't say that he has better skills.
     
  11. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    I do not mean that offense but have you boxed? My friends and i were all boxing for a couple of years and we directly saw that klitschko got older.
    I think if wlad would fight one more time against solid hw everybody would realise how old he had become.

    Other then that fury is by far the best hw(if he trains).
    The extrem problem all these guy as wlad wilder and aj have against fury is his height.
    Those guys were trained to fight like tall guys for decades. No matter if ams sparring or pros every trainer would tell them to keep their distance keep the jab and the 1-2 working. In the moment were they fight fury they have to fight in a way none of them ever had to fight.
    In addition to this fury is not a taller version of aj and wlad, he has that akward switch style with ton of fints. He fights like a hw that is smaller then eveybody else and tries to make up his height disadvantage by a strange fighting style.
     
  12. Okin129

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    I don't know if you was ever in a boxing ring and i doubt your experience in watching boxing.

    Anthony Joshua is a boxer-puncher with great combination punching who puts his opponents under pressure,
    this is not a big man fighting style, AJ fights like a small man, which makes him even more dangerous.

    Only because Tyson Fury has great movement and skills for his height doesn't make him by far the best boxer.
    Boxing is more than that, he has different attributes than Wlad or AJ but he is not better.

    Wladimirs age wouldn't have made that much of a difference in this fight because he was never that offensive,
    he would have been overpowered by AJ more likely than not.

    And he is capable of overpowering Tyson Fury as well, Tyson Fury couldn't do the same with AJ like he did in
    his fight with Wlad.
     
  13. Legend X

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    People will say anything to discredit Tyson Fury and try to make both Joshua and Wlad better than Fury.
    They just can't get their heads round the fact that Fury was better.
    Styles make fights. Fury's style completely shut down the robotic Wladimir.

    The idea that Wladimir in Dusseldorf wasn't in his best shape or wasn't focussed/motivated or that "didn't throw punches" for some unexplainable reason is just nonsense.
    * He's always in great shape.
    * He's always focussed.
    * He was highly motivated to shut Fury up.
    * He wasn't able to throw punches because Fury rarely let him get set to throw any.

    Fury outboxed him. Deal with it.

    Was 39-year-old Wlad prime ? No.
    But he was as good as he could have been at that time and he certainly isn't better now at 41.
     
  14. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wladimir himself will probably always make excuses for the Fury loss.
    Getting KO'd is one thing but being outsmarted by a man like Tyson Fury just grates on Wladimir's ego too much.
     
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  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Right now Fury is Buster Douglas. And Douglas took it to Tyson and knocked him out and was willing to defend his belt. Fury sat back and refused to engage and currently sounds like he is wasting away and dying when he talks.