Werdum has a Glass Jaw!

That's what can happen from a well placed, well timed shot in 4 oz gloves. Werdum was one of the more durable fighters in the division, if they were fighting with 10-12 ounce pillows it would have been different.

 

Not really, there isn't that much difference in power between the 10oz and 4oz. The reason why you don't see this sort of stuff in high level boxing is because you'll never see a top level pro boxer literally running chin up in a straight line into a counter puncher like Aldo and Werdum did.

You can have a chin of Mariusz Wach but if you're running into your opponent's counters it's likely you'll get knocked down at some point if not knocked out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWlGDTmQIoE

It wasn't so much about the leverage of the punch but Werdum running into it. It was also accurately placed. It doesn't necessarily mean he has china chin, especially not for MMA standards.

 

It was a weak arm shot, no real debate to be had. His feet weren't planted, there was no rotation from any part of his body and his arm wasn't even fully extended when it it landed. Audley Harrison would have brushed off a shot like that.

 

It's not so much what Stipe was doing but Werdum literally running into his punch.

 

its was more about how exposed his chin was and him not seeing the punch as his chin was in the air in a vulnerable position. Sloppy technique in the stand up is a common theme in most MMA fights.

Its fights like this that make me laugh whenever MMA diehards claim that UFC champs are complete fighters and a pro boxer would have no chance in a so called real fight. Boxers who have good footwork, reflexes and timing can absolutely behead a UFC fighter.
As Stipe said "it's hard to do jiu jitsu when your gettin your head blitzed in the stand up."

 

:yep

Not normally a fan of the glass jaw debate but that was abysmal. A glass blower could create a chin sturdier than that.

 

Stipe is a good example of what decent boxing can do in MMA. Stipe is a good pure boxer. Obviously not near the elite pro boxing level but good enough, I think he was a golden gloves champion and he trains a lot of pure boxing as opposed to many other MMA fighters who just hit the pads and spar like idiots.

I mean look at how Werdum and his team are training: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2SX6yeDvKU

Watch fresh Werdum entering at 3:00 and cheap shot an exhausted guy who spars with no time limit and is basically a human heavy bag. Terrible training and a good way to get brain damage and your chin deteriorated.

 

No. It's just what happens when 230 lbs fighters hits each other with 4 ounces gloves.

 

Or any oz glove, once you realize the glove size is supposed to be a hand protectant as apposed to a chin protector. That's why sparring with headgear doesn't help a fighters brain from moving which is what creates the ko.

Doesn't matter what you're hit with, you're getting ko'd gloved with 20oz or 4 oz. The difference is will there be shattered cheek bones and hands to go along with the nap time

 

Werdum doesn't have the best chin... But there's a lot worse in the HW division. He went full on caveman and was running right into Miocics shots, that's the real story here. His mental lapse not his so-so chin.

 

And once you start sparring for real, you understand on your chin the enormous difference the volume of the padding does to the impact.

But hey, i understand you may find unreliable the opinion of about countless boxers and trainers :conf

 

This.

 

These Brazilians love running into punches

 

Indeed. Aldo, Werdum, Wanderlei (against Vitor), Shogun (against OSP) and Demian Maia (against Marquardt). There's probably more

It's the wild Brazilian Muay Thai + BJJ combo that was popularized by Chute Boxe guys in the 90s and 00s. It used to work when no one in MMA knew a **** about boxing.