Werdum On The UFC: “They Kind Of Used Me And Threw Me Out”

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  1. snakerattle79

    snakerattle79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    http://steverattlesnake.cliquezone....he-ufc-they-kind-of-used-me-and-threw-me-out/

     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I still don't understand the contract dispute other than Werdum had 2 quality wins and JUST BEFORE THE LOSS TO JDS the commentators were saying that he is next in line for the Brock & Randy VS Mir & Nog winner. Then he loses but JDS doesn't get put in line despite winning that fight and then winning a few more.

    I'm a big fan of the UFC but Werdum exposes how they can pick and choose their rankings and how they can **** someone over contractually.
     
  3. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    The aim of capitalism is to make as much money as you can get away with. it underpins the whole of western society. If you can get away with chopping down the rainforest and selling it, it's done. It's obvious that the fighters in MMA are being totally exploited. Fighters union anyone?

    At the moment the rules of MMA favour young cardio grunts who will fight for peanuts, and supply seriously outstrips demand. Any fighter can be replaced in a second.
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The UFC are against a fighters union and dont observe the Muhammed Ali act.
     
  5. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    when you're not dana's personal friend...you don't get as many chances..

    Check this out...

    3 losses in a row
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chuck-Liddell-192

    4 straight losses
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Keith-Jardine-2638


    Here again..prior to his victory...3 straight losses
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Stephan-Bonnar-3014


    Not all fighters get the same treatment.

    Lesnar is a prime example of this.
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522

    1rst fight...Loses against Mir.
    2nd fight...Beats washed up herring.
    3rd fight...propulsed to a title fight against Randy...

    That's a pretty impressive short cut...

    Compare this to Machida's run for the title fight...

    Without losing...he had to beat 7 fighters to get to the belt...
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Lyoto-Machida-7513


    Or how about randy himself ?
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Randy-Couture-166

    The guy comes out of retirement , and instantly gets a title fight against Tim Sylvia...How can this be justified ? and it's not like he had a huge winning streak before his retirement..as a matter of fact...Liddell defeated him , then he retired...then he decided to make a come back.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a shock!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    boxingcar they certainly pick and choose the rankings which can be good and bad.

    Herring wasn't washed up, he had just beaten Kongo who had just beaten Cro Cop.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Whoever Kongo had beaten is irrelavent. Fact is Herring is a shadow of the fighter he was a decade ago. That much is not in dispute.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    None of that makes sense. Herring had beaten Kongo who is himself a worthy opponent given that he had just beaten Cro Cop. I'm not saying Herring was prime but it was a good win.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The fact Herring beat Kongo just further proves the weakness of the UFC heavy division pre the PRIDE merger. Herring is shot point blank point simple. Good win for Lesnar as he was a name opponent. Thats where it ends. If you want to compare then compare Fedor's peformance and the brutal beatdown he gave a prime Herring.
     
  11. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    Herring has been the same fighter for a decade never changed, A prime Herring wasn't a world beater so don't lie to yourself.
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Yeah your right. Wins over Mark Kerr, Inoue, Erikson, Vovchancyn definitly not a world beater.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I don't think the merger or strength of the divison has anything to do with it.

    Herring had beaten Kongo who at that stage of his career had just beaten Cro Cop (a Pride veteran) and that was considered an upset. Herring had also gone the distance with Nog (another Pride veteran). Herring always was a 60-40 type fighter - win some, you lose some. Brock was in his 3rd fight, coming off of a loss and he won all 3 rounds. Fedor had 13 fights by the time he faced Heath.
     
  14. Sloth

    Sloth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah sure, and Tyson is just as good today as he was in 1988.:good
     
  15. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    First of all, Liddell and Couture are horrible arguments. You're talking about multiple time champions, guys whose resume's are unquestionable. Werdum got screwed, but it's not like he was in the same boat as Couture and Liddell.

    The rest of your examples prove several points.

    1. Dana likes to keep guys around who the fans are excited by...
    2. ...especially if they are TUF guys, who Dana shows a lot more patience with because they are UFC made guys. He does show preferential treatment toward "his" guys. Werdum never was one of them and he suffered for it.