Were boxers better in the 80s

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  1. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    90's Bulls > Everybody else.
     
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  2. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Do you really think this or is it more of a case that you want to believe it?


    By the way, I know zip about basketball, so it's a legit question.
     
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  3. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In their respective era maybe (I dont think so. I think the 2017 Warriors are)

    In a head 2 head sense ? Absolutely not.
     
  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats exactly what it is. The NBA has changed so much in style that a team from 1996 wouldnt be able to compete with a top team now under todays style and rules.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    How about under 90s rules?
     
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  6. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even under those rules I think the 2017 Warriors would win. Too much of a gap in 3 shooting and the closer 3 line would make things easier for them.

    I do think it would be a 6 game series though
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think you had certain greats who stood out in the 80s. Who were better than most of what’s around today. I don’t like to generalize an entire generation as being superior to an entire generation. It’s more complicated than that
     
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  8. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing is a sport of repetition. The more one practices
    and actually fight, in general the better one will become
    if that individual has the right athleticism, intelligence and
    heart.
    Let's use Ray Leonard for an example. From 1979 to
    1982 he had something like 15-16 pro fights against all
    ranked in the top ten competition including 3 atg's
    in or close to their primes.
    Now look at Terrance Crawford the latest flavor of the
    month. It took him 8yrs to reach the amount of fights
    Leonard reached in 3. In those 3 yrs for Leonard
    imagine how much sparring and training he put in to remain
    sharp for those actual fights.
    Fighting and sparring on a regular basis develops
    instinctive and intuitive skills . Not just technique,
    and BOXING endurance. Which is different than just
    endurance i.e learning to pace, where to get a breather,
    pushing and leaning on your opponent to wear them down. Split second countering , and riding punches, and learning to punch with the opponent, not the" you punch I block , I block you punch" seen so much in today's world class boxing. Boxing today has become checkers...... It used to be chess....

    World class boxers today seemed to be more interested
    in dissing their opponents on the internet than actually
    getting in the ring with them.
    It's the reason boxing has regressed, fighters today and
    just don't get the activity of fighters of past decades.
    So much money, so many different "world titles, at so many different weight classes, 24 hrs weigh -ins , the inherent dangers of the sport, and all the different rules to spare the boxers excessive damage ( Rightfully so) has made the sport not close to what it was in prior decades.
     
  9. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    no one from the 90's bulls or 2017 warriors would beat Larry Bird in a 3 point contest though, just like no boxer from the 90's or 2000's would beat Muhammad Ali, I think it's more there are anomalies or outliers that are of such a magnitude of skill the general population in the given sport isn't going to come close no matter the era, there might be an instance where an athlete has better stats or looks better on paper, but that is not the same as going one on one on a court with Bird or stepping in the ring for 15 against Ali, Foreman always talks about the presence Ali had in the ring as being his most powerful attribute, what other boxers even have ring presence, sure it would be scary to have someone like Marciano, Frazier, Tyson coming at you but I don't think that's what he meant
     
  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Steph Curry blows Larry Bird out in a 3 point shooting contest
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I have no idea who is best out of Bird and Curry but, despite this, I have a feeling if I had to be my life on it, I'd bet on Curry.
     
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  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Curry is widely considered the best shooter ever in NBA history. He's shattered every record and it's not like he was shattering Birds records to begin with anyway.

    Anyone saying Bird would beat Curry in a 3 point shootout is delusional
     
  13. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Curry never had to score with Kareem, Magic, and Rodman up his ass though

    oh yeah, and Jordan
     
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  14. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please no of those guys could stay in front of Curry especially the big men.

    The only one who has a chance is Jordan

    Perimeter defense is a lot better nowadays than back then.

    Don't let people lie to you
     
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