were does luis ortiz go from here ????

Lol, keep swallowing the BS then.

Yeah Al gave him a voluntary shot, but why get 500K for a shot at a title, when all he had to do was wait to be named mandatory and possibly get 10 times that? Or at the very least see if Hearn picks him over Pulev, all Ortiz had to do was sign with Hearn which is refused to do, only agreeing to work on a fight by fight basis. Why would Ortiz not sign with Hearn if it secured him a title shot? Maybe he didn't want it, Al gave him an easier path to a title and he took it before he was even gave Hearn a chance to block him out.

If anyone is re-writing or more accurately, re-shaping history it's you to suit your opinion.

 

Theres only one place Hearns knob is and thats at the back of your throat keyboard warrior. Ortiz was with Matchroom for a total of 5 months. 5. Not on any promotional contract, on a fight by fight basis. He left before he was even made mandatory and turned it down, while Joshua was doing a deal for Klitchsko. Deal with it. You know why he left and turned down his mandatory? Promised milk and cookies by Haymon to fight Wilder. Took another year of ageing him to get Wilder in the ring with him, you know how much he got paid? Bugger all. Ortiz can make good money, retirement money if hed sign with Matchroom. You dont give a damn about Ortiz, while your choking on Eddie you got Haymon taking you from behind, clown.

 

Yep he signed with Haymon a month before the Wlad fight. No way Hearn could of given Ortiz an earlier shot as Haymon himself had options on Joshua after the Martin win and chose Molina and Breazeale as the fighters to face Joshua, so Hearn had no power there to force a Ortiz fight.

Then nobody would choose Ortiz over a Wlad fight and by then Ortiz had already signed with Haymon and agreed to fight Derric Rossy in April 2017 but pulled out of the fight with a hand injury. Ortiz wasn't fit to fight again until Dec 2017 2 months after the Takam fight, so even if Hearn had wanted Ortiz instead of Takam he was likely still recovering from an injury and wouldn't be ready.

So maybe Ortiz could of fought Joshua instead of Parker right, nope because Wilder/Ortiz was announced before Joshua/Parker was so clearly Ortiz wasn't looking for a Joshua fight then either.

Logistically the only time a fight with Joshua could of happened was before Joshua won the title as since then Ortiz has either been injured, already fighting someone else or frozen out not by Hearn but by Haymon ironically. And even if it happened before then and Joshua fought Ortiz instead of Whyte, Ortiz was a nobody and hadn't beaten Jennings yet, so nobody wanted it then because nobody knew who Ortiz was lol.

But hey what does something like facts and truth mean when you have delusional fanboys and haters claiming Ortiz is being ducked by everyone.

 

exactly. If Ortiz had just waited he would have been mandatory and fought Joshua in October 2017 instead of the Pulev/Takam scenario. Would have made millions. But no, Al Haymon got in his ear and looked after him apparently. What did he get for the Wilder fight, 400k? So what are Ortiz's options now? Fight Molina, Stiverne, Washington etc for pennies, or sign with Matchroom and fight Whyte, Parker, Joshua, Chisora, Takam, Povetkin, Price etc to make some good retirement paydays. If im Ortiz, im booking a flight to London.

 

I think he made just over $500K I believe. Pulev would of gotten $5 mill had he fought Joshua, so clearly from a financial perspective it was a crazy move from Ortiz.

Haymon should set him up with one of his other heavies but that's unlikely it's not like his heavies ever fight one another unless it's a defence against Wilder. Haymon likes to ensure Wilder has a long list of B list US heavyweights on hand for a voluntary, lol.

Look at Parker, he's now got another nice payday from Hearn for the Whyte fight, while Ortiz is stuck twiddling his thumbs calling people out who have better options than him. But then Ortiz is not exactly savvy when it comes to the business side of things. He ducked Ustinov which would of given him $360K, plus a mandatory shot and then paid $1 mill to buy himself out of his contract with Goldenboy.

 

Just chuck him in with Dommy B

 

So let me get this straight.

1. Ortiz wasted his prime fighting no-hopers
2. Ortiz grows some testicles and fights the likes of Jennigs. Commentors say "Ok, Ortiz looked decent enough. If he just lost some more weight and got into a meaner shape"
3. Ortiz beats Thompson and Scott. Again, people say he's top 10 material but to reach the top echelons of the division he needs to take the sport more seriously. That includes a strict diet regime and grueling training camps.
4. The Ortiz fans tell us "If he gets a title shot he will get into the best shape ever, you won't recognize King Kong. Just give this man a title shot, he will work out so hard he will shed the last couple pounds quickly".
5. Ortiz finally gets his shot and looks very soft, he certainly didn't look like this was his once-in-a-lifetime type of chance. He looked like a lazy guy who didn't think he was offered a unique opportunity. His conditioning showed in the fight where he gassed badly by the mid rounds.

And then you little clown come along and tell us "But but but... In the Wilder fight Ortiz looked like he always looked." That's the problem! He looked as chubby as he always has, just this time this was *THE* chance of his lifetime. Ortiz just doesn't cut it at the top level with his lazy attitude.

 

What a couple of pathetic little sluts you are. Just keep yanking each other off why don't you lol. Here's the simple FACTS:

Hearn kept Ortiz away from AJ.

Ortiz left a mando position and Matchroom to sign with Al cos he knew what you can't bring yourself to admit.

**** right off you Hearn slut. Flip flopping all over the place like Hearn's flaccid **** on your ***** face.

Ortiz was legit. If he was anything you claimed then Whyte and Hearn wouldn't be running a million miles from him to fight Joe Parker. Parker just lost and brings nothing right now. Nothing at all. Stop being a little hoe.

 

Heart transplant list?

 

"Derrrr derrr, im little Davo! Facts dont matter in Davo world! Derrrr derr"