Were does Usyk rank P4P all time?

The true p4p concept doesn’t make sense because of physics. A good little man is always going to look more skilled than a good big man. A 250lb man, no matter how athletically gifted, is never going to be able to move like Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Gets murkier down at, say, light heavy of course. Bivol is huge compared to the leprechaun class guys, but man is he fast, light on his toes, and active.

if we use p4p to bring in some kind of size discrepancy, Usyk is #1 easy, though.

although, yeah, 66 Ali blows the whole thing up. But he’s kind of a once in a century talent.

 

Top 40 or Top 50 is reasonable. I think he is closer to Evander Holyfield or Lennox.

Top 30 for me are the best of the best out there. Usyk era of HW doesn't really have the Mike Tyson, Holyfield or Lennox to push him to Top 30. And he would need to have wins over them to get him to Top 30, easier said than done.

 

They may not be perfect, but if you compare them to other rankings that are around, especially to these of sanctioning bodies, you can clearly see that they are the closest to how the divisional Top 10s look in reality.

 

Surely top 5 due to a number of reasons- Olympic champion, undisputed cruiserweight and undisputed Heavweight champion (not his natural weight division). Never ducked anyone - always sought out the bigger guys. Truly humble character

 

Most the votes are top 30 or higher to my surprise. Shows how highly people rate Uysk.

 

Top 50
May go top 30-40 when he retires, but now I think somewhere 40-50 imo

Way behind Floyd and manny

 

I love how you s..t over Fury for years buddy, yet will glaze him now to boost Usyk

Fury could have been great, but he didn't do enough. Aj tried to be great, but he just missed the mark

Usyk has beaten some very good fighters and proved he was the man in 2 divisions, but he has no greats. Though I will concede he has beaten at least 2 future hof guys

 

Well I would say around top 60 to 70 IMO. Looks great on tape, which we don’t get the benefit of many of our older ATGs and has an untarnished resume thus far.

 

Usyk over Whitaker ?!

 

Usyk over RJJ, Whitaker, is a joke.

 

It is always used for reference @Greg Price99 has already explained to you its the most accurate representation of top 10 ranked fighters of that time. Hence that's why its always used amongst the most knowledgeable posters when discussing a fighters resume in regards to ranked fighters they have fought.

Even McGrain who's by far the most knowledgeable poster on this site also references Ring Magazine when tallying together a fighters resume in regards to ranked fighters they have beaten.

Wallin is not a solid guy he was a complete nobody when Fury fought him and wasn't in the top 10 either. And with hindsight Wallin looks even worse as he was blown away by Joshua and lost every round to a 40 year old Chisora.

Cunningham did absolutely nothing at Heavyweight again not a top 10 Heavyweight.

Chisora is a fringe contender a decent name on the resume but fighting him 3 times is a farce.

Fury did not beat 8 ranked fighters lol so I guess if you're using sanctioning bodies which no one does BTW I guess the likes of Holmes who you criticise alot must have what like 20+ wins over ranked fighters then ? According to your criteria. So if we use your criteria of sanction bodies Fury will still fall a long way short of any Heavyweight classed as a great.

 

Where is chavez sr?
He missed others also

 

I think it would be a good win but not because of undisputed again.

I would rather see Uysk fight Parker anyway.

 

Not a funny one

 

Hearns I feel is criminally underrated as well. He did have some bad losses too, but he did beat Benitez and Absolutely creamed Cuevas, Duran.

Also Andre Ward, Chavez, Morales, Marquez, Delahoya, Hopkins, Toney, Lopez aren’t getting their dues these days, imo.