Were does Vitali Kiltschko rank among all time heavyweights?

No worries man, take it easy. I can't see him (Foreman) as a top ten heavyweight but many disagree with that...

 

You’re definitely correct on that front.

 

I am also not sure either Foreman or Frazier would make my top 10 either. That's a hot take on my end I imagine that's not popular at all.

 

In literally every post regarding Foreman, you preface it by saying you're a huge fan before proceeding to criticize him. Least you can do is cut the B.S about being such a huge fan.

 

I'm afraid i don't understand this man. I am a huge fan of Foreman. One of my favourite fighters is Nigel Benn, I'd not claim he was a top middleweight or super middle of all time. Are you REALLY saying if we like a fighter we should elevate them to ATG status and ignore their faults? I loved Foremans seek and destroy all out power attitude as a younger fighter, his arrogant belief in his power and his chin, and his more measured approach as an older man, still with massive power but now like a kodiac grizzly with a degree chopping down a redwood with a double headed axe. I love his story, his personality, but I don't rate him in the top ten men to lace on gloves at heavyweight ever...think about that. I don't rate him in a tiny percentage of fighters, an elite's elite. Are you really saying as a fan of a fighter I should ignore all of their failings and blindy support them in the face of the evidence my eyes provide? Foreman was a beast, a monster at the weight. But he was touchable, beatable, and I don't think he is in my top ten...that said, this is a moveable feast because for me, thought, analysis is not a fixed point. As someone much smarter than me quipped, the real revolution is the evolution of the mind, and I hope mine will evolve till the lights go out.

Peace and love always brother man, gbn x