Were you impressed with Crawford?

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only competitive round I saw was round 2. The rest were one sided, Horn was getting abused with big punches but he was getting countered over and over again. His corner had no tactical advice to give him coz they couldn’t see anything he could do differently, in the 8th Crawford was catching a lot, had him against the ropes and was teeing off on him, he lands a big shot which almost drops Jeff before the bell rings. In the 9th it’s one way traffic I believe Jeff is dropped this round and it’s all bud at this point. Feel free to rewatch the tape for the last 2 rounds and tell me if you we’re Horn would you want to continue. Horn doesn’t complain when the stoppage happens, it isn’t like Froch vs Groves where groves is livid with the ref.
     
  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He can never go the distance with Spence, Spence would break him down. I think he maybe could with Thurman and Danny but both beat him. Porter vs Horn is an ugly war, with heads flying in and it’s a hard scruffy mess.
     
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    Fight reminded me of Gatti-Mayweather almost, not as bad but it had the same effect. One guy was so outclassed and outskilled you started feeling sorry just watching the fight.
     
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  4. shadow111

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    It's kind of hard to say to be honest because I think he's having weight problems making 147.

    There's no doubt the 147 lb champs are on another level skill-wise than Horn, but I do think Horn has a toughness and grit about him and an awkwardness that makes him difficult for any of those guys to walk through. Even Bud was having some trouble with him in the early rounds.

    What do you think about Horn moving up to 154?
     
  5. shadow111

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    That would be a crazy heads flying in ugly war. But I don't think Porter would have an easy time with Horn's style. I could see Horn getting in and out and winning rounds.
     
  6. jmashyaka

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    Yeah it was sad to watch, I think at the end of round 8, he walked back to his corner. Sat there absolutely demoralised, Rushton looks clueless and gives him the rocky speech and I hear one of them say think about your baby. I’m thinking him thinking about his baby isn’t gonna change their skill levels, the gap was just to huge between them and there was no amount of belief that could have changed that fact at that point of the fight.
     
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  7. jmashyaka

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    Not at all, that’s the type of fight that will take years of both their career. Stylistically that is a tough fight for Porter coz he likes to be the guy rushing in. I would pick him to win coz he can at least box where as Jeff has that awkward herky, jerky style but that’s all he has.
     
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    If Lara has anything left in his tank, he absolutely wrecks him. Think Hurd beats him, bigger, stronger, better fighter.

    Has a chance versus ex-WW's, I think Brook is a way better fighter but he can struggle with this type of style, I remember Carson/Porter gave him a lot of problems. Same with Khan. I think both of them are past it now too though.
     
  9. shadow111

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    I know at one point Horn landed a good clean right hand that got Bud's attention. There were several times where Horn was able to get inside and open up with short combo busts that backed Crawford up. He couldn't really sustain the offense but most of the rounds were pretty back and forth rather than Bud just dominating like many people are claiming. I know Bud started slowly pulling away but I think a lot of people are exaggerating at how dominate Bud was.
     
  10. shadow111

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    Do you agree that Horn is struggling to make 147 and may be a better fighter at 154? Or do you think he should stay at 147?
     
  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you are understating how dominate Crawford was, it was almost as bad as Billy joe vs Lemieux. Of course Horn was abit more competitive coz Crawford started slower, I’m telling I thought it was gunna be competitive with Crawford winning a hard but deserved UD. The only round I could even consider making a case for was rd 2.

    I think you should rewatch the fight and tell me if you feel the same I watched it this morning so it’s quite fresh in my memory.
     
  12. shadow111

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    It wasn't the worst stoppage I've ever seen or anything, it just seemed premature. I do think the body shots really slowed Horn down, and I'm wondering if the difficulty of cutting weight affected Horn's ability to take those body shots without affecting his stamina like it did. I just think he's in a similar situation to Kell Brook when it comes to making 147. Horn is a big guy and I just think making 147 takes too much out of him and he'd be a better fighter at 154.
     
  13. Reppin501

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    Khan gets sparked out in under 8 rounds. Peterson would be a good fight but Crawford has a gear Peterson doesn’t.
     
  14. Cableaddict

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    Take off those rose colored glasses!

    I'm one of the fans defending Horn's performance, pointing out (correctly) that while he probably lost every round, the first 5-6 rounds were indeed competitive. Horn's defense held up, and he managed to land a decent number of his own shots.

    However, by rounds 7-8 he was finished. Bud had him figured out, and Horn had virtually no chance of landing anything clean. Then in the 9th, he was clearly gassed, and Bud was completely dominating him. It wasn't like the Pac fight, in which he had one bad round, you could see it was hopeless.

    I would have loved to see the fight go on, but I'm OK with Byrd's stoppage.
     
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  15. shadow111

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    It was much more competitive than BJS vs DL. Horn was definitely in the fight with Bud unlike DL. I thought it was a gonna be more competitive than it was but I was suprised to see Horn tire so quickly. It must have been the body shots and I give Crawford full credit for those that obviously slowed Horn down but I really think it had a lot to do with Horn's difficulty making weight, and him not fighting in Australia.