Were you impressed with Crawford?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Jun 10, 2018.


  1. dougemerypm

    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    Mikey Garcia AND Danny Garcia could have come to 140 to fight Crawford and didn't. Amazingly, now that Crawford is gone, Mikey is at 140 and yapping about wanting to fight Spence. IF those fights don't happen it will be because neither Garcia want it not because Crawford doesn't want to fight them.
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Crawford could fight, and looked Sharp as a knife last night. The welterweight division is probably the hottest division in boxing right now.
     
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  3. dougemerypm

    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    Wow in the 50s or the 60s? (That is 1950s or 1960s) Can you find any in the last 40 years?
     
  4. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Hey you didn't state any prerequisites. I mean there's that Thailand guy who won it as quick as Loma did (can't remember his name now), I'm sure there are others.

    Thing is though, it's not just about getting a shot, I'm sure many other Olympians COULD have got a shot too, but instead opted to test the waters first. Why shouldn't Loma get rewarded for taking that risk and getting the achievement?
     
  5. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many times can I explain to you that the Pacquiao vs Horn fight was different. That was competitive on the scorecard, he was in there with 39 year old who he was stronger than. In the Crawford fight he was in their with a p4p top guy, in his prime who was teeing off on him. If you can’t see the difference then I don’t know what to say any more.
     
  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should get rewarded for it but he should also get criticised for losing to Salido. I hate when people dismiss the Salido loss but then exhalt the GRJ win, they can’t have it both way.
     
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  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Yes. Horn isn't world class but the opponent doesn't have to be for the skill on display to be apparent.
     
  8. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Name me a boxer who actively (as Lomachenko requested) wanted to fight for a title in their first pro fight....outside of Rademacher I cannot think of any.

    Also you seem as do many to want to take Lomachenko's amateur career against him as his start in the pro ranks.....What he is doing is unheard of.

    Respect and enjoy it man.
     
  9. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Well that's one of the reasons why fighters to choose to build themselves up in the pro ranks before taking on the title shot too. Loma took the risk a bit too early, came up short and now it's gonna be a mark on his record for the rest of his career, I personally don't care, but it is what it is.

    If he had beaten Salido, it would have been definitely very special, alas wasn't meant to be. If he waited, 5-6 fights before taking on Salido, probably would have beaten him easily.
     
  10. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I liked this post, except that Horn's W over Oldslow-quiao is questionable at best.
     
  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Salidos style would never be an easy fight for Loma, if you can push Loma back you can beat him. You have to bigger than him, of course and you have to be willing to get hit and throw when he throws. This is why the only person I think could possibly beat him at 135 or lower is Mikey. I would also be interested in seeing how Berchelt and Davis would have fared but I think he beats them in tough fights.
     
  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Questionable yes but when has Linares even faced anyone as good pacquiao. In his whole career he has never once faced the top guy in his division.

    Let’s not do some revisionist history, when horn faced Pacquiao, a lot of people had manny as the no.1 WW because of the way he dominated Bradley and his body of work.
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course I see the difference, Crawford Horn was more one-sided than Pacquiao - Horn, but it's being exaggerated as to how much more one-sided it was. When Horn got the decision over Pacquiao, it was largely seen as a robbery. You're trying to say I thought Horn was going to mount a late rally and had it taken away from him. I didn't say that, only that something like that could have happened.

    I was responding to another poster who said that the stoppage was terrible where I agreed that the stoppage was premature.
     
  14. Halfordscream

    Halfordscream Global Full Member

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    • he's a super great watch if you are into athletes as large as an average chick. Any great jockeys you dig also?
     
  15. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I gotta disagree, Lomachenko in his 2nd fight has never gone more than 5 rounds before, so that must have been on his mind, and you can see in the way he fought, he still had those amateur quirks in his game. He also doesn't let the refs off the hook with the dirty tactics now either, in that fight he was allowing Salido to get away with everything.

    After the GRJ fight he kept getting better and better and beaten fighters better than Salido with ease. Even if you look at his lower level wins, Roman Martinez, that's the same guy who had a war with Salido, Lomachenko demolished him.

    So IDK, it's not TOTALLY just the lack of experience because Salido definitely is a stylistically difficult fighter to deal with, kinda same way guys like Castillo and Maidana were for PBF. But I think Lomachenko would have destroyed him after his 5th or 6th fight.