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Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Relentless, Sep 20, 2007.


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  1. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    That is more of an answer.
     
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  2. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    I went to the site for this workout and all the case studied. cited gained at least 12 lbs of muscle. That is adding size, right?
     
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  3. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    Thanks.
     
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  4. Relentless

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    you're talking about the WS4SB, i thought you meant in general,

    when working for strength there is no body parts, there is simply pushing strength, pulling strength and core strength.

    bench press is one way to train pushing strength.
     
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  5. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    I see.
    When you work out for strength, I assume you gain some defintion, no?
    Do you gain any size?

    I want to gain strength and get a littel ripped. I am buying one of those chin up/dip stations for my house. I am going to use it and do push ups 3 times a week before work.

    Then after work, I can do this westside workout. What do you think?

    You too Virus.
     
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  6. Relentless

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    any weight training you do you will definatly pack on SOME muscle (especially if you're a beginner) but size has more to do with diet.

    but if you are going for maximal strength keep your reps between 3-5 reps,

    this means lift something which you can only lift for 3-5 reps, stick to compound lifts such as deadlifts, squats, pull ups(weighted if possible), bench press and military presses, only use freeweights

    if you want explosive strength you will need to lift between 3-5 reps with a little lighter load but lift explosively, for example a weight you can deadlift for 8 reps, you would lift it as explosively as possible for 4 reps.
     
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  7. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    follow ws4sb but ont do pushups and **** befoe the wokout. aldo dont waste ur money on aa puup/dip station
     
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  8. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    Damn this **** is complicated. I'm just gonna buy some steroids and call it a day.
     
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  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huh?

    iksrtfo, go to T-Nation.com and search for articles and routines by Chad Waterbury. You'll learn a lot about strength training reading his stuff.

    Or like Relentless said, post your goals.
     
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  10. Relentless

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    not really, just tell me your goal.
     
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  11. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    To you and Virus:

    Goals:

    Tone my my arms and chest.
    Build lats becuase I don't have any.
    Train for explosive power that I would need in MMA.

    I am 5'7, 154 and have gotten down to 138 when in peak boxing condition. My goal is around 142.


    I wanted to do body weight excersises in the morning and train for explosive power in the evenings.

    I would appreciate any help from you guys.
     
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  12. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many days a week can you train?
     
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  13. Relentless

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    if you want to train for explosiveness or strength your body needs to be fresh, so morning will probably be a better time for that.

    chest and arm tone will come with conditioning.

    i'll give you a routine later on.
     
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  14. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    up to 6.
     
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  15. viru§™

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    You can’t really achieve both of them goals at the same time (you probably could, but it’d be difficult). I’d suggest doing a heavy weight routine, eating at a surplus for a month or two to build the muscles you want then carry on lifting weights during MMA training to maintain the new muscle and strength.

    Decent routine for size and strength – ABBH II by Chad Waterbury

    Day 1

    Flat DB Bench-Press 3x5
    Decline BB Bench-Press 3x5
    Seated Cable Rows 3x5
    Bent-Over BB Rows 3x5

    Day 2

    Deadlift 4x12
    Standing Cable Crunch 4x12
    Calf Raises 4x12

    Day 4

    Standing Military Press 3x12
    Chin-Ups 3x12
    Dips 3x12
    Upright Rows 3x12

    Day 5

    Back Squats 6x5
    Standing Cable Crunches 6x5
    Calf Raises 6x5

    I don’t really know much about MMA/boxing routines for after, but take a look at this article http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1462189&cr
     
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