westside 4 skinny *******s

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Relentless, Sep 20, 2007.


  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    thats a decent routine if he wants size along with strength.
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kinda misread his post :patsch He can still do the routine as long as he doesn't eat at a surplus, he won't get much bigger.
     
  3. iksrtfo

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    Thanks I'll start this in a week or so.
     
  4. Relentless

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    another way to do it is....

    Day 1 max strength, where you will be focusing on the heaviest loads you can handle

    4x5 deadlifts (alternate with squats each week)
    4x5 bench press (you can alternate weighted dips, incline/decline bench each week)
    4x5 weighted pull ups (here you can also alternate with dumbbell rows and barbell rows, or any other pulling movements)
    4x5 military press

    Day 2

    explosive weight/plyometric training

    on this day you will lower the weight, to a weight which you can lift 'explosively' and rapidly

    5x4 deadlifts/squats
    5x4 bench press
    5x4 pull ups
    5x4 military press (this time use your entire body to explosively push the weight up, so bend your knees slightly and it doesn't matter if you sort of jump and let your feet leave the floor)


    with this kind of routine you will not pack on as much size as the other routine but it is better for strength and explosiveness.
     
  5. Shanger

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    Isn't a military press with a leg drive, a push press?

    Looks like a nice routine, I may have to switch to a 2 day soon due to time constraints.
     
  6. Relentless

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    yeh its a push press, the name escaped me!
     
  7. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    I like this because I can spend more time training MMA then lifting weights.

    How many days should I rest between the two workouts?
    Why do I alternate squats and deadlifts? They seem like two different excersises.

    Would it hurt if I warmed up with a bodyweight routine?
     
  8. MrSmall

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    west side for skinny *******s is defranco's one, the original WESTSIDE BARBELL system is different.
    IT has 2 maximum effort days, and 2 dynamic effort days (explosive.)
    WS4SB has a repetition day which helps growth over anything else.

    That ABBH II one has a bit too much. You should go heavy and low on the reps for STRENGTH. If you're aiming at explosiveness, then again, low reps but more sets to maintain form.
     
  9. Relentless

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    i would say give yourself atleast a day between, so for example if your training boxing/mma on mon wed and fri, lift on tuesdays and thursdays.

    the reason for alternating between squats and deadlifts is because they work most of the same muscle groups, you can also alternate it with other lower body movements such as weighted lunges or one legged bodyweight squat.

    you can warm up with bodyweights but dont over do it, save your energy for the strength, if you're worried about conditioning you can do it after your strength session.