What’s next for GGG? Is he finished?

As did Canelo.

 

Isal said.......I think the only fighter that you can say truly avoided him was Sturm...
This is my Point...

 

I just call it like I see it man for years my super causal friends I'd show them GGG fights to get them excited and maybe convert them but I'm real in my assessment of fighters or maybe just honest but man GGG is an average Champ.

 

For the most part that is true a lot of top quality fighter offered GGG a fight and he refused because they weren't on his terms, if you want the fights you do what it takes to make them.. the problem is his fan baby him and expect everyone to bow to him when he ain't done anything or beat anybody

 

Whoa whoa there son... Calm your horses. I simply said GGG declined to fight Saunders, which is a FACT. I didn't say it had anything to do with the fact that BJ Saunders is a top slick fighter, and the GGG doesn't fight top level slick fighters, or that BJ Saunders looked so dominant against Lemieux, I just said GGG declined the BJ Saunders fight, one could say it was a "smart business decision".

Canelo was the WBC MW champion...
Canelo had never fought above 155 (FACT).
Canelo challenged GGG to a NON-title fight at 155 (FACT).
MW is between 155-160 (FACT).
GGG declined the challenge (FACT).
GGG stated multiple times throughout six years that he would fight anyone between 154-168 (FACT)
GGG has had three fights above 160 (FACT)

One of the many excuses that was used to avoid Ward was that Golovkin was not moving weight divisions because his priority was to become undisputed MW champion, yet when presented with the opportunity to achieve that he passed on it not once, not twice, but FOUR times, one of those four times was when he rejected the opportunity to fight Saunders.

FACT: Ward's team sent Golovkin an offer for a fight at 168, 50/50 split, for 2016

FACT: GGG's team rejected that offer. It is WELL documented.

 

Nope, Dchenko was not undefeated, he had already gotten whooped by Jacobs when Canelo was supposed to fight him.

Canelo was trying to get a fight with Kovalev before he fought Yarde.

 

Theres a lot of claims there that you are saying are “facts” which in FACT are not at all FACTUALLY true.

Then again as an avid team Canelo/DLH cuck it’s to be expected.

Again if GGG avoided/ducked/whatever BJS then so did Canelo, infact every fighter in the world is a sucker as they’re getting called out all over the place.

Ward was at 175 fighting Brand in 2016.

 

You seem to use the term “whooped” very loosely.

Derevyanchenko lost a very close fight to Jacobs, a fight in which a lot of people had him winning. Again Canelo dropped his belt rather than facing him, by your own standards that constitutes a duck.

No doubt you’ll change the goal posts but as I’ve learnt from conversing with you, you cannot educate the poor.

 

Canelo was scared...once he had signed Judges like Adelaide Byrd and Co the fight was made.....the First fight a fight that Golovkin completely dominated Canelo new he only had to survive to win....one of the most Corrupt decisions seen in Boxing for some time...end of story.!!!

 

Oh really? Well can you point out those claims I made that I called FACTS?

I'm starting to realize how dishonest you are.

Again, Mr. Dishonest, when did I say GGG ducked BJ? I said that one of the excuses/reasons given why GGG would not fight Canelo at 155 or Ward at 168 was because his main goal was to be undisputed, when presented that opportunity on four different occasions it proved to be false that it was one of his main goals. BJ Saunders' team sent GGG an offer for a fight in London, GGG rejected that offer, that is all I'm saying.

And It doesn't matter if Ward was fighting at 154 or even 190, WARD'S TEAM SENT GGG AN OFFER FOR A FIGHT AT 168, WITH A 50/50 PURSE SPLIT, FOR THE YEAR OF MY LORD 2016. It is well documented, it has been validated by Loeffler, and was rejected. Why do you have such a difficult time with those FACTS?

You would be better off trying to ARGUE why ggg's team was justified in rejecting that offer instead of pretending dumb and keep on repeating that Ward weighed in at 171 in 2016.

 

Opinions as what yours are are not “facts” just because you say they are.

If GGG avoided or turned down BJS in your opinion and you claim it as a fact then surely you must agree that Canelo avoided BJS too, considering talks have been held in the past between both camps to no fruition, BJS has even gatecrashed a Canelo promo. Again by your own reasoning Canelo avoided Derevyanchenko, hell Smith has called him out that’s another duck, we could go on forever.

Ward v GGG was mooted and was backed up by HBO only for Ward to blow his knee out and then come back at 175, at that point the fight would never be made as in Wards own words he would struggle to make 168 again, however he kept the GGG narrative as a way to keep his name and stick high.

2016 Ward was at 175, he was never coming back down to 168.

 

Ward weighed 172 in 2015

175 x 3 in 2016

 

OMGODDD

Bro! You're a mess.

Look, you started engaging me when you asked me "when did GGG "REFUSE" Saunders or Ward", on page 4.

I have told you multiple times when he refused to fight them. I have not said he ducked them, he just opted for the easier path, and once once for the more lucrative route.

One thing about me, is that I'm consistent in how I measure fighters. If you want to argue that Canelo avoided Derevyanchenko that's a better argument for you, but I'll tell you that he opted to fight a bigger, more dangerous, and accomplished fighter in Kovalev, and that he had just clearly beaten Jacobs who had just clearly beaten Dchenko, yes in both close fights, and then I will tell you that GGG refused Dchenko to fight a JrMW who had been retired for two years with only a three week notice.

You're not winning this argument, but by all means keep trying, its cute.

 

Regardless of what he weighed, the contract was for 168, not 168+. Not sure what point you're trying to make.

THERE WAS A CONTRACT, and the contract specified the SMW limit. Ward verbally stated the SMW limit. You're argument is void based THERE WAS A CONTRACT SENT WITH THE WEIGHT STIPULATED AT THE SMW LIMIT. Do you understand something that basic?

 

So Canelo refused to fight BJS too, good you agree.

Just like you agree with Canelos gifts the other day.

Canelo didn’t clearly beat Jacobs, he won but it was a close fight.

GGG turned the Derevyanchenko fight down as it was a last minute fight and he had a big pay day coming after getting robbed against Canelo.

Now why exactly did GGG come to have Derevyanchenko thrown at him in the first place? Answer me that.

You use certain words freely without knowing their true context.