what a load of bull****, nothing wrong with vitalis arm!!!

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  1. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Against Arreola Vitali threw 519 jabs in 10 rounds.
    Against Adamek Vitali threw 414 jabs in 10 rounds.
    Against Chisora, Vitali threw 258 over 12 rounds.

    Even the commentators (Roach and Rafael) mentioned on the live broadcast that it looked like Vitali had injured himself.
     
  2. kylmac85

    kylmac85 Active Member Full Member

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    African Americans? You know they are British right?
     
  3. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, we are going to believe a keyboard warrior instead of the doctors :rofl
     
  4. health70

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    The compubox stats? I take it you haven't taken the time to review them.

    The argument, as I understand it, is; Klitschko damaged his shoulder in the fourth round, causing him to change tactics and throw far fewer jabs than he would normally thereafter.

    Against Arreola, just as an example, he bossed the fight leading with a solid jab that he threw, on average, 52 times per round. Against Chisora, he threw just 21.5 per round.

    There is an obvious difference in strategy here, but I don't think it was caused by a shoulder injury suffered after the first few rounds. Here is why.

    The earliest I have heard he picked this injury up was in the fourth round. People keep suggesting he barely led with the jab from here on in, but a fleeting look at the compubox shows that this is, in fact, bull****.

    In the first round he threw 27 jabs, almost half of his Arreola average. In the second, just 21. The third? 16. The fourth only 21.

    Vitali then sustains his 'injury', that supposedly hinders him from using his jabbing arm. In rounds 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10, he throws; 22, 12, 19, 20, 21, 14. Numbers don't seem to suggest his jab is thrown less after round four.

    In the final two rounds, Klitschko throws more jabs than in any of the first 10, with 29 in round 11 and finally a fight-high 36 in the final round. He stopped using his jab after getting injured in round four? **** off.

    He used his jab less than he normally would. We ****ing get it. He jabbed less as the fight went on because of an injured shoulder he got in the fourth round? Suck my balls.
     
  5. GrizzyBeard

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  6. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    I dont believe neither the arm excuse.Came to late.
     
  7. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    britards!
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quoted for truth. Age is inversely correlated to injury probability in boxing. The older you are the tougher your body becomes and simply refused to succumb to injuries :deal
     
  9. Lucando

    Lucando Guest

    don't worry, Russian or Ukranian Heavyweights will sooner or later ruin the
    Heavyweight Wet Dreams of each and every British Heavyweight...

    you can Bank on it! :good

    :lol:
     
  10. Brighton bomber

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    I'm a Vitali fan and was rooting for him to win. But even I don't believe his arm was injured. Yes he abandoned the jab in the middle rounds but in the later rounds he started jabbing again. He struggled to land his left jab throughout the fight, even early on. I think Chisora's head movement negated Vitali's jab and Vitali resorted to the right hand to keep Chisora off him as he was walking through the left even when it did land.


    Just check out the punch stats. Vitali threw more jabs in the last 2 rounds than any other round, yet we are meant to believe he injured his left shoulder in the early rounds. Vitali threw more jabs in the last 6 rounds than he did in the first 6 rounds, that does not suggest his left hand was impaired in any way.

    http://compuboxonline.com/packages/klitschko-chisora/VKlitschkoW12Chisora.pdf

    Reality is he faced his best opponent in years with a style that did not suit him and he is past his best. The fight was not close at all, Vitali won easily, he just didn't dominate, every minute of every round like he usually does. That does not mean he was injured, it just means he's getting old and had a good opponent in front of him.
     
  11. madballster

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    Why don't you go listen to Vitali telling Szudenk in the corner that his shoulder hurts and he raise the arm without pain. Szudenk tells him "Ok try to use the right arm as much as possible, you'll be fine".

    Oh wait.. Vitali was probably lying to his own coach. Right?
     
  12. JASPER

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    You are such a bullshitter! I really cannot believe you would post such rubbish . . . we all know that no one would watch a heavyweight fight for a second time:fire
     
  13. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  14. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All jabs are not created equal. Just laying your arm out there, that's counted as a jab the same as a stiff hard jab would be.

    And if you want to look at the punch stats against Arreola, probably the most similar fighter to Chisora that Vitali has ever fought, Vitali averaged 52
    jabs per round.
     
  15. Dano

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    well since you watched it....

    :good